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re: FSU AD says "potentially more movement" within the next 24 months
Posted on 4/24/26 at 9:47 am to Gatorbait2008
Posted on 4/24/26 at 9:47 am to Gatorbait2008
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think there is a very firm agreement by the SEC and UF that the conference will not add FSU and Miami. Plus the goal is to add marketplaces, they already have most of the Florida marketplace.
That might have been true 15 years ago. I think the SEC will add FSU if/when they break free of the ACC. Marketplaces still matter, but not to the degree they did a decade ago. Mizzou is lucky that they were an expansion target in the peak era of adding cable boxes/metros to increase conference revenue. The focus now is shifting to adding premium brands and creating compelling match-ups so that people will buy streaming packages and watch what the SEC has to offer (side note: this is where I think the SEC is much better positioned long-term than the B1G).
FSU offers both: a successful, popular program that regularly rates in the Top 10-15 in terms of viewership and athletic revenue despite being in the ACC, and it has immediate rivalries/good games with some big SEC schools that college football fans will want to watch. The biggest downside is their lack of market, and that does still somewhat matter, but I don't think it's a big enough inhibitor that the SEC lets them end up in the B1G.
(For what it's worth, I have no skin in the game here and I don't give a rat's arse about Florida State, never even been on their campus. Just calling it how I see it.)
Posted on 4/24/26 at 9:54 am to BreakawayZou83
This is it exactly- premium matchups that will bring the best ratings are going to be the driving factor
Posted on 4/24/26 at 1:50 pm to GTnerd
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…premium match ups that will bring the best ratings….
Exactly, and this is where the SEC has it all over the B1G.
Posted on 4/24/26 at 1:58 pm to FlyDownTheField83
So you see why both leagues would want FSU now?
Posted on 4/24/26 at 2:01 pm to RunningJacket
Yes, we will see how it plays out.
Money (now out in the open) is the key to success. That will come from high TV viewership, and this is the area that SEC is way ahead of the B1G. Another source of money is the rich alumni, and that is sort of a wild card that will fluctuate year in and year out; every big time college football power has rich boosters willing to shell out big bucks some years.
I like your coach, Key, a lot. Ga Tech always plays Georgia close, rivalry game and all that….Ga Tech used to be a consistently good team, and I do not think that the SEC teams you noted would beat them easily, but I do think Ga Tech would be consistently in the bottom half of the SEC based on their performance in the past 10-15 years. Maybe Key will change my mind about that,….again, we will see…
Money (now out in the open) is the key to success. That will come from high TV viewership, and this is the area that SEC is way ahead of the B1G. Another source of money is the rich alumni, and that is sort of a wild card that will fluctuate year in and year out; every big time college football power has rich boosters willing to shell out big bucks some years.
I like your coach, Key, a lot. Ga Tech always plays Georgia close, rivalry game and all that….Ga Tech used to be a consistently good team, and I do not think that the SEC teams you noted would beat them easily, but I do think Ga Tech would be consistently in the bottom half of the SEC based on their performance in the past 10-15 years. Maybe Key will change my mind about that,….again, we will see…
Posted on 4/24/26 at 2:09 pm to GTnerd
I see why the B1G needs FSU much more than the SEC needs FSU…
Here are the B1G teams that do not move the needle in terms of national viewership:
Rutgers
Northwestern
Minnesota
Maryland
Michigan State
Wisconsin
Purdue
By contrast two SEC teams from one of the smallest states play and it is one of the twenty highest nationally rated regular season football games,….know what that is?
Auburn versus Alabama.
Here are the B1G teams that do not move the needle in terms of national viewership:
Rutgers
Northwestern
Minnesota
Maryland
Michigan State
Wisconsin
Purdue
By contrast two SEC teams from one of the smallest states play and it is one of the twenty highest nationally rated regular season football games,….know what that is?
Auburn versus Alabama.
Posted on 4/24/26 at 2:32 pm to FlyDownTheField83
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I see why the B1G needs FSU much more than the SEC needs FSU…
Here are the B1G teams that do not move the needle in terms of national viewership:
Both conferences will jump to add the top few ACC schools because it is the last power conference that has not been looted by the B1G and/or SEC. Once the ACC has been raided, I believe that is how the college football landscape (at least in terms of conference affiliation) will look for the foreseeable future.
There are only a handful of clearly additive programs left for the B1G and/or SEC: Notre Dame, Florida State, Clemson, and UNC. Then there are a group that may be additive, but are not clear cut additions, including but not necessarily limited to: Miami, Virginia, Virginia Tech, NC State, Duke. I'd throw some of the four corners schools as wild cards for the B1G as well.
We're going to end up with 18-20 schools in the SEC, and the B1G will almost certainly end up with 20+. Expect a weird ACC-Big 12 Frankenstein conference to form and sort of hang around as a third "Power Three" conference. I'd also wager quite a lot that Notre Dame finally caves and joins the B1G if/when the ACC implodes.
If I was forced to guess, I'd say that the SEC will add FSU, Clemson, UNC, and Duke. I used to think VT would get that last spot, but I actually think there is real, underrated value in having a ratings gold mine for hoops in Duke, plus the biggest hoops rivalry. I think the SEC would like Virginia, but their administration will push for the B1G.
I think the B1G will add Notre Dame and Miami. It's conceivable they expand beyond 20 and add some more western schools to try to alleviate their current logistics nightmare. I could also see them adding Virginia and Georgia Tech. Hard to tell, I don't really understand the B1G's tactics. They added Rutgers and UCLA to a midwestern conference.
Posted on 4/24/26 at 3:22 pm to BreakawayZou83
I don't know about Miami but no there's no "firm agreement" about keeping FSU out of the SEC. We've always supported them joining.
Posted on 4/24/26 at 3:57 pm to BreakawayZou83
I'd say that the SEC will add FSU, Clemson, UNC, and Duke
I think the big takes fsu or Clem. Big needs premium brands. Oh st and fox are pushing heavy for big football brands. Osu admins have been pretty vocal about always being stuck in noon slot for important games(big ten game of week). They have stated they are pro expansion assuming it’s football focused. They’ll snatch uva, Duke or Carolina, Miami, fsu or Clemson. Nd aside I think that’s the only move that would satisfy universities and networks.
I think the big takes fsu or Clem. Big needs premium brands. Oh st and fox are pushing heavy for big football brands. Osu admins have been pretty vocal about always being stuck in noon slot for important games(big ten game of week). They have stated they are pro expansion assuming it’s football focused. They’ll snatch uva, Duke or Carolina, Miami, fsu or Clemson. Nd aside I think that’s the only move that would satisfy universities and networks.
Posted on 4/24/26 at 4:13 pm to GoGators1995
Fly,
I hear you and don’t totally disagree. But you saying that GT has been down the past 10-15 years is just an arbitrary timeframe from a system that is dead (I could us an arbitrary timeline for your team). We couldn’t sign 4 stars under the triple option and rarely got 5 stars to take an on campus visit. That has all changed under NIL which is why we have more 4 stars and 5 stars on our roster than EVER in the past. We just signed the top RB in next years NFL draft - Justice Haynes. He was leading the country in rushing last year when he got hurt at Michigan. This guy, like Jhamyr Gibbs, in the old system would have transferred to a Bama, Auburn, Clemson types for the bag. But since he’s from ATL and we can offer him millions he will now play for us. That’s a game changer player.
My point isn’t that GT will be good as it takes a lot of players to be a top 15 program. My point is the world has COMPLETELY changed in the past 3 years and each year more and more schools are getting their NIL in order. Indiana and Cignetti jumped on it from day 1 and it led to fast success. There are going to be more Indiana’s in the future we can’t even fathom today. The days of simply buying a subscription to a recruiting service and then making blanket statements that SEC schools are dominating and a school like GT would be in the bottom half are long gone. You probably would have said the same thing about Indiana 2 years ago or even last summer. But, they brought in players and absolutely smashed Bama from a coaching AND player perspective. Indiana’s players were simply better than what Bama recruited and bought. That’s unbelievable for both you and I to accept as southern fans.
I just don’t understand how so many fans don’t see the complete paradigm shift that has happened. In the old system a mid level program lost Gibbs to Bama and we all could understand why. Now, a top tier RB transferred from Michigan to a mid level program. Why? Money and location. We just had a first round OLinemen pick last night. We haven’t seen that in years. And it wasn’t a fluke. Our coaches found a lower level guy that all the SEC schools missed in recruiting from subscription driven services and we turned him into a 1st round pick. The old days are dead.
I hear you and don’t totally disagree. But you saying that GT has been down the past 10-15 years is just an arbitrary timeframe from a system that is dead (I could us an arbitrary timeline for your team). We couldn’t sign 4 stars under the triple option and rarely got 5 stars to take an on campus visit. That has all changed under NIL which is why we have more 4 stars and 5 stars on our roster than EVER in the past. We just signed the top RB in next years NFL draft - Justice Haynes. He was leading the country in rushing last year when he got hurt at Michigan. This guy, like Jhamyr Gibbs, in the old system would have transferred to a Bama, Auburn, Clemson types for the bag. But since he’s from ATL and we can offer him millions he will now play for us. That’s a game changer player.
My point isn’t that GT will be good as it takes a lot of players to be a top 15 program. My point is the world has COMPLETELY changed in the past 3 years and each year more and more schools are getting their NIL in order. Indiana and Cignetti jumped on it from day 1 and it led to fast success. There are going to be more Indiana’s in the future we can’t even fathom today. The days of simply buying a subscription to a recruiting service and then making blanket statements that SEC schools are dominating and a school like GT would be in the bottom half are long gone. You probably would have said the same thing about Indiana 2 years ago or even last summer. But, they brought in players and absolutely smashed Bama from a coaching AND player perspective. Indiana’s players were simply better than what Bama recruited and bought. That’s unbelievable for both you and I to accept as southern fans.
I just don’t understand how so many fans don’t see the complete paradigm shift that has happened. In the old system a mid level program lost Gibbs to Bama and we all could understand why. Now, a top tier RB transferred from Michigan to a mid level program. Why? Money and location. We just had a first round OLinemen pick last night. We haven’t seen that in years. And it wasn’t a fluke. Our coaches found a lower level guy that all the SEC schools missed in recruiting from subscription driven services and we turned him into a 1st round pick. The old days are dead.
Posted on 4/24/26 at 4:20 pm to FlyDownTheField83
As for matchups people want to watch, again, the times are changing. Yes, the SEC has owned the better matchups in the past. I grew up watching them. But again, it’s not an overnight process but viewership goes where teams are successful. Auburn-Bama isn’t the same game if it’s a #9 vs. #23 matchup. Also, it’s about time slots. My team drew numbers, not because people cared about GT, but because we played in great time slots against interesting opponents. The entire country watched GT-Colorado last year because of the story lines and time slot.
It will be interesting to see Indiana’s numbers skyrocket this season because everyone wants to see how Cignetti does without Mendoza and they’ll get every great time slot. ESPN will still give the SEC their best slots but the continued playoff dry spell isn’t helping.
It will be interesting to see Indiana’s numbers skyrocket this season because everyone wants to see how Cignetti does without Mendoza and they’ll get every great time slot. ESPN will still give the SEC their best slots but the continued playoff dry spell isn’t helping.
This post was edited on 4/24/26 at 4:33 pm
Posted on 4/24/26 at 6:04 pm to tide06
Agreed. As a UNC guy, it’s far more likely to be NCSU than Duke.
Posted on 4/24/26 at 6:25 pm to Floyd Dawg
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Agreed. As a UNC guy, it’s far more likely to be NCSU than Duke.
I’m a Duke alum and I’m not convinced the administration or alumni would be “enthused” about joining the Deep South SEC or their academic profile regardless of the sports advantages and I sure as hell don’t think UNC care one way or the other whether Duke comes with them as long as the deal makes sense fiscally and for their academic profile.
Posted on 4/24/26 at 9:32 pm to BreakawayZou83
This sounds like an AD saying whatever he needs to say to get $.
Posted on 4/25/26 at 12:50 am to Henry Jones Jr
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If it’s FSU and NC that are coming, we will have 2 other teams coming with them. Likely Clemson and Duke (North Carolina won’t leave them behind)
May as well take all of the old ACC and have a division w/FSU, Clemson, UNC, NCState, Duke, Wake, UVA, and GT. Toss South Carolina in there too.
Then let's go ahead and also add Houston, Baylor, Texas Tech, SMU, TCU, and Rice. We can put A&M and Texas in that division.
After that add Colorado, Nebraska, Iowa State, Oklahoma State, Kansas and Kansas State. That division can have OU and Mizzou.
Now take VT, Miami, Syracuse, Pitt, BC, Louisville.... y'all get the picture.
Posted on 4/25/26 at 2:36 am to Dr RC
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May as well take all of the old ACC and have a division w/FSU, Clemson, UNC, NCState, Duke, Wake, UVA, and GT. Toss South Carolina in there too.
Then let's go ahead and also add Houston, Baylor, Texas Tech, SMU, TCU, and Rice. We can put A&M and Texas in that division.
After that add Colorado, Nebraska, Iowa State, Oklahoma State, Kansas and Kansas State. That division can have OU and Mizzou.
Now take VT, Miami, Syracuse, Pitt, BC, Louisville.... y'all get the picture.
No. That is too logically to make it happen.
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