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Always thought Jordan Travis was overlooked for how good he was…great college QB. He always seemed to have a good attitude as well, so I bet he is a success in life without playing football.

On knee injuries/surgeries….i had torn cartilage in both knees removed, then bent one leg backwards and tore off three ligaments…..I had surgery and rehabbed like crazy and it took years to get back close to what it was, but I was never fully confident in that knee. Then as an old man that knee I tore up began hurting and I ended up having to get a knee replacement, glad I did it due to the pain, but my knee was never the same after I tore it up.
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They are the best option because of everything they give, not because they have done anything to prevent competition


So if you really believe that, I think we are so far apart it makes no sense to exchange anymore : besides I have other things to do….

By the way, dishonest bitch, social justice warrior, fricking commie, are examples of name calling that the uneducated use when they see their arguments failing…

Look, I need more of your words like voluntary and indoctrinated to beat my fellow ranters as we try to get your word count up….

By the way, if something happens once a twice a year, that is not “all the time”. I would say you need to think before you post, but I need more crazy words out of you…..

To take on a few more of your false claims; that the NCAA/admins are not enriching themselves, they are just poor people working for the good of the kids and are always good and true…etc…. The salary of an athletic director at NCAA member institutions was $60k to $100k per year in 1990. The average salary of these same ADs in 2023 was $1.1 million. There has been no change to that basic job description, but their salary is more than TEN TIMES greater. No one else with the same job over that period of time got raises of this enormity. Do not even get me started on the coaches.

Some of the arguments made in the anti-trust case that you want to flippantly set aside because they do not meet your criteria of being a credible experts relate to the fact that the NCAA has a virtual stranglehold on access to the NFL where players make millions (I.e. not room and board and a scholarship). In the 2023 draft every single one of the 259 players drafted to the NFL came from NCAA member institutions. In the 2024 draft 255 of the 257 players drafted came from NCAA member institutions (1 from the CFL and 1 from a rugby organization ). These statistics make clear that if you want access to the NFL you must go through the NCAA football programs. As well, college coaches not only recognize this fact, they use it to recruit players to their teams. Saban regularly bragged to recruits that his program was the best at getting players,to the NFL. This shows that for all practical purposes the NCAA has a monopoly on getting players in the NFL. The NCAA then used this monopoly power to force players not to use their own name, image and likeness (NIL) to earn money while playing in the NCAA. If a player did this they were kicked out,of the NCAA and effectively blackballed from the NFL. This argument is only one of the ideas reviewed and accepted by the courts at all levels. There are others that show the NCAA being complicit in artificially denying players earnings while college players.

Wrong. “Appeal to Authority “ as a fallacy is typically reference to one person as an authority figure making a claim. In this case there was the district court, the court of appeals and the Supreme Court that agreed with the result.

You have said some dumb things, but for you to say “It’s only a matter of time until it’s overturned “ on a case that has been considered up to the Supreme Court shows a level of ignorance that is hilarious.
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None of what you are saying is illegal


On 8 August 2014 in the Ed O’Bannon versus NCAA lawsuit over NIL the court found the NCAA was in violation of antitrust laws (said it was illegal), in 2015 the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals affirmed most of the district court ruling (said it was illegal), and in 2016 the US Supreme Court refused to take up this case indicating that the lower courts rulings were correct (said it was illegal).

3down10 your long standing background in filibustery and nonsensesagation is very impressive. However, I will take the fact that rejected appeals up to the US Supreme Court mean that you are LYING when you say the NCAA has not broken the law.
Hey Sandman, let’s start a contest!

Let’s see who can respond to 3down10, and get him to write more of his nut job responses. Whomever gets him to write the most words wins,……bonus points for number of times he writes “voluntary” or “indoctrinated”.

re: 2025 Supercross

Posted by FlyDownTheField83 on 4/24/25 at 9:55 pm
Great post, my best to his family, and hope for recovery….
I think this is a great question. It certainly looks like the college QBs will be the most affected, so many reported to be knocking down NIL in the $500k to $1million range…….

If they are 2nd round and later the pay cut looks inevitable, and then out of the first two days…..oooofffff.

Will this cause more lawsuits against the NCAA to force more years of eligibility…..?
Your failure to recognize what everyone else knows makes you, at best, deluded. The NCAA does not provide too good of a service, they colluded with the institutions in order to artificially restrict the player’s earnings. That is a fact, your refusal to acknowledge it makes it no less a fact.

Do you really believe Saban only was guaranteed to make $200k by the U of A ? However they structured his compensation, with booster support , etc…they damn well made sure Saban was getting the same as the top five coaches were being paid, like $10million a year. I do not blame them, Saban was great,…..in the old flawed system.

If you want to describe your fantasy as “conviction” that is your view, deluded and stupid, but you have a right to your opinion. I respect your right to state it (over and over and over, ad nauseum), but the world has moved on.

Ink stained was right, it is a waste of time to argue with you.
I will join with Inkstainedwretch just to make sure you know that several people see your idiotic tirades filled with outright untruthful statements that you believe you justify through repitition.

You are wrong.

The NCAA is not a “voluntary organization”, their football programs are the only realistic path to wealth in the NFL for players (fyi, that is a monopoly). Every realistic and sane person knows this, except you in your fantasy world. Additionally they make millions and billions of dollars off the business of college football, but have only given the college players a pittance of their profits up until now. It is not just me and inkstained that see your 1950’s era view of college football is wrong,….our government systems, college football organizations, sports media, etc,…have all generally agreed the old system was flawed to the point radical changes were required.

Additionally, your desire to paint people as “evil” because they do not agree with your world view says more about you than anything else. If these tirades truly indicate your level of anger then perhaps you should get some professional help, …..

re: Pensions

Posted by FlyDownTheField83 on 4/24/25 at 6:03 pm
Cami Joe is correct. Most defined benefit pension funds 40-50 years ago had limitations and oversight by real committees that limited use of the funds. The financial services companies wanted to get their hands on that money and invest it so they could make money off it. So the poorly managed defined benefit pension funds were highlighted and these firms promoted fear of DB pensions. They also worked politicians to make laws that would write high liability for pensions on the company books.

All of this led to companies like Vanguard getting huge 401k dollars, and becoming financial giants using the retirement funds of middle America.
Maybe cool down a bit,…..

Do you remember when seat belts were made mandatory? The first car I owned was a used 1968 Mustang and the original seatbelts were long gone, had to find some in a junkyard. Requiring the use of seat belts saved lives, so people adapted.

These self driving features look like they will save lives too, and the rollout will be imperfect; however, the end state looks like a better situation.
Your numbers: 54 cops killed, 28 by whites, 17 by blacks

Blacks make up 15% of the population, but your numbers say they make up 31% of the cop killings. So, according to YOU, blacks kill cops twice as often as whites.

Sorry the facts don’t match your feelings.
Uhmmmm, maybe, …..it is a make or break year for Freeze.

How did DeBoer do taking Bama to the playoffs,……oh, …wait….
I can’t believe a Bama fan would pass up an opportunity to obsess over Auburn.
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These college athletes are almost as greed filled as the coaches, ADs, and boosters…


FIFY
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…Without a collective bargaining agreement…


A union and a collective bargaining agreement are a pipe dream - not going to happen.

The parameters look like they are being set one lawsuit at a time….

re: Nico officially at UCLA

Posted by FlyDownTheField83 on 4/20/25 at 10:05 pm
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…our long forum nightmare is over…


Uh,….i don’t think so. However it plays out we will hear about Nico for years. If he is a success at UCLA then Tennessee fans can look forward to being trolled mercilessly.

However, there are signs that point towards him having a tough row to hoe at Troy Aikman’s alma mater: new and inexperienced coaching staff, O line uncertainty, and the pressure that will come from his portal baggage. In this case we can look forward to the gleeful “I told you so!!!….” from the rant experts.
I think you may be onto something here. The ridiculous mess that is college football is causing fans to jump off that ship.

I admit to having Birmingham Stallions games on a few times already this year, and complaining to my wife about some of the throws Matt Corral has missed. A sure sign of some level of interest.