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For the first time in decades the SEC may be surpassed as the nation's top conference

Posted on 8/3/23 at 9:47 am
Posted by GAT BoilerPickle Doc
Member since Dec 2014
1631 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 9:47 am
If the Big 10/20 adds any combination of Oregon, Washington, Stanford, Florida State, North Carolina or Clemson to get to 20 teams. Additionally I could see Notre Dame potentially giving up independent status and engaging with the Big 10.

I'm not a big fan of these megaconferences but it's a dog eat dog world and the Big 10/20 could be positioned for financial dominance if they play their cards right.

The hypothetical new Big 10/20 would have a coast to coast footprint encompassing a huge population.

Is bigger, better? That's debatable but in terms of stability and economic influence it would appear to be the case.

I assume the SEC (at least privately) isn't sitting on their hands watching the Big 10 potentially become the new king of the hill.

If the SEC were to expand, who would add the most value?



Posted by CarolinaGamecock99
Member since Apr 2015
21867 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 9:48 am to
Guess Texas better jump to the big10
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26506 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 9:48 am to
Print the Most Conference Money in a TV Deal shirts.

Posted by geauxnavybeatbama
Member since Jul 2013
25134 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 9:50 am to
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That's debatable but in terms of stability and economic influence it would appear to be the case.


What would they influence? More teams to lose in the opening round of the playoffs?
Posted by NaturalStateReb
Arkansas
Member since Jun 2012
1443 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 9:51 am to
If the Big Whatever adds Oregon/Washington/Stanford/Cal, and their goal is to eventually corral Notre Dame, then all of ND's traditional rivals other than Navy will be under one roof: USC, Michigan State, Purdue, and Stanford.

I hope we don't start going past 16, but it seems inevitable.

I think the top targets for the SEC would be:

1. North Carolina--this is our Notre Dame
2. Virginia
3. Florida State
4. Clemson

If the Big 10 takes all of those PAC schools, I would presume they wouldn't have much appetite for ACC additions.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25572 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 9:51 am to
The TV deals mean nothing until the rest of the country buys the best coaches and recruits the best players.

It could happen.
But don't tell me that Oregon, usc, michigan, and notre Dame haven't already tried and failed.
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
4184 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 9:52 am to
I don't think the SEC expands unless Notre Dame wants to join the SEC. I don't think any other team adds enough money to contracts with TV companies to make adding any teams worthwhile.
Posted by gamecockman12
Columbia, SC
Member since Aug 2012
5874 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 9:54 am to
The SEC would definitely need to get into North Carolina/Viginia if expansion becomes reality again.
Posted by JetDawg
Los Angeles, California
Member since Oct 2020
7153 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 9:56 am to
Of all the ACC schools, Florida State is the one that most wants to GET OUT of that conference.

However, as in FSU's case as well as with all other ACC schools, the grant in rights deal is completely blocking all of them from leaving. It's EXPENSIVE and it just doesn't look too promising for any of them to leave and go elsewhere right now. Some kind of knight in gold may come along and deliver them, but who?

The Big 10 has the potential to overtake the SEC, especially with the addition of USC and UCLA.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30111 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 9:56 am to
You don’t know shite about the sec or why it became the best conference.
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
24880 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 9:57 am to
frick Texas
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
23887 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 9:57 am to
A 20 team "conference" is 2 conferences under 1 banner....
Posted by carolinaswamper
unincorporated swamp, johns island,
Member since Jan 2013
3142 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 9:58 am to
Post less partner.
Posted by five_fivesix
Y’all
Member since Aug 2012
13834 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 9:59 am to
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frick Texas


well said
Posted by BigSlick
No Idea
Member since Jan 2013
1166 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 10:19 am to
Don't you think they would have to actually, you know, kinda WIN SOMETHING first?
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
6897 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 10:52 am to
quote:

If the Big 10/20 adds any combination of Oregon, Washington, Stanford, Florida State, North Carolina or Clemson to get to 20 teams. Additionally I could see Notre Dame potentially giving up independent status and engaging with the Big 10.

I'm not a big fan of these megaconferences but it's a dog eat dog world and the Big 10/20 could be positioned for financial dominance if they play their cards right.

The hypothetical new Big 10/20 would have a coast to coast footprint encompassing a huge population.

Is bigger, better? That's debatable but in terms of stability and economic influence it would appear to be the case.

I assume the SEC (at least privately) isn't sitting on their hands watching the Big 10 potentially become the new king of the hill.

If the SEC were to expand, who would add the most value?



Lets say that Oregon, Washington, Notre Dame and any number of ACC teams joins the Big 75 or whatever they become, UGA is still UGA, Bama is still Bama and LSU is still LSU. Those 3 would win 80% of the time that they played ANYONE in the Big 700 or whatever they become. If you tosse Tennessee, TAM, UK, USC and Ole Miss its a 50/50 toss up that those teams beat everyone in the Big 7000 at least half the time. Just because the Big 700000 had 700000 teams if they don't have one that can beat UGA and one that can beat LSU and one that can beat Bama what are the better than, the middle of the SEC??? When they start winning head to head against the SEC they will have become equally important as a conference. Keep getting that arse whupped by SEC teams and its going to be hard to claim you are better than the SEC
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55228 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 10:53 am to
Ok Sneezybeltrans
Posted by Darindawg
Member since May 2022
1954 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 10:54 am to
Uh, as long as UGA is in the SEC, no one is going to 'surpass' the SEC overall.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86450 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 10:55 am to
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If the Big 10/20 adds any combination of Oregon, Washington, Stanford, Florida State, North Carolina or Clemson


How many natties have those schools combined to win this century? How many has the SEC won in the last 3 years?
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
6897 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 10:55 am to
quote:

The Big 10 has the potential to overtake the SEC, especially with the addition of USC and UCLA.



Overtake in what way? Certainly not on the field. The combination of all the power in the big 10 has proven unable to overcome 2-3 SEC teams. They already make more money that the SEC....in what way will they overtake the SEC? It ain't going to be in wins in head to head matchups anytime soon...
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