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re: For the first time in decades the SEC may be surpassed as the nation's top conference
Posted on 8/3/23 at 3:43 pm to bah7tea
Posted on 8/3/23 at 3:43 pm to bah7tea
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Offer UNC a school of its choice (Duke or NCST) in order to get UNC to join.
UNC may choose UVA to continue the South's Oldest Rivalry and for academic prestige. Of course, leaving Duke and State behind would be a big problem too, especially Duke.
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Posted on 8/3/23 at 3:43 pm to Landmass
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I would choose VA Tech over liberal arse UVA any day. I don't know if there is any school in NC that is a fit culturally... maybe App State and their 30k seat stadium. Boone is cool though.
"I only want schools that I think are conservative."
Jesus man. SEC leadership isn't stupid enough to consider a school's supposed political ideology when vetting candidates for expansion into an athletic conference.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 3:44 pm to JustinOKC
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Quantity does not equal quality.
This. In spades. The SEC does not need to react to anything just because the big 10 does something. We are finally going to be at a point where everybody plays everybody over 4 years and that's a good place to be. Screw the big 10.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 3:47 pm to PerrillouxToTexas
Landmass has clearly never been to NC or VA and is unfamiliar with the culture at universities in those states.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 3:53 pm to TarHeel408
The Big 10 is so desperate to be the best, but think about how stupid this idea is to have west coast teams in their conference. Would it just be basketball and football, or all sports. Can't really see athletic departments footing the bill for some of the smaller sports to be sending teams all the way across the country multiple times a year.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 3:56 pm to GAT BoilerPickle Doc
Certainly not by Nattys won or bowl records over last 20 years. If number of teams equates to prestige, they win.
16 is fine. Need to mesh Texas and OU into SEC culture.
Money from tv etc will come down to compelling matchups. I ask you, when was last time you stayed up and watched Washington vs UCLA?
If, and I am not in favor currently, and the network partner is willing to pay, then FSU, Clemson, North Carolina, Virginia Tech would be it.
16 is fine. Need to mesh Texas and OU into SEC culture.
Money from tv etc will come down to compelling matchups. I ask you, when was last time you stayed up and watched Washington vs UCLA?
If, and I am not in favor currently, and the network partner is willing to pay, then FSU, Clemson, North Carolina, Virginia Tech would be it.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 4:00 pm to bamaoldtimer
The Big10 already has a more lucrative TV contract than the SEC is getting. Each Big 10 school may end up with $15-$20 million more than each SEC school. Rutgers will get more $$$ for their games than Bama, UGA, or LSU. Thanks Mr Sankey.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 4:02 pm to GAT BoilerPickle Doc
Sure.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 6:15 pm to GeorgeWest
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Each Big 10 school may end up with $15-$20 million more than each SEC school. Rutgers will get more $$$ for their games than Bama, UGA, or LSU. Thanks Mr Sankey.
They’ll need it for travel expenses in all sports since they’ll be going coast to coast and most likely no sport but football produces any revenue.
There will be alot of games in half empty venues that no one cares about.
But they’ll have more teams…whoopeeeeee!
Posted on 8/3/23 at 6:36 pm to GAT BoilerPickle Doc
Quality>quantity
Posted on 8/3/23 at 6:37 pm to GAT BoilerPickle Doc
Just asking, but wouldn't you need to kind of win national championships in the big two sports a lot to claim that?
Posted on 8/3/23 at 6:41 pm to GAT BoilerPickle Doc
What the OP did ... this is a good example of why UTa fans are not a good cultural fit for the SEC.
They're cucks, defeatist spineless cucks, as a whole.
They're cucks, defeatist spineless cucks, as a whole.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 7:20 pm to GAT BoilerPickle Doc
Won't matter. B1G can add every team not in the SEC and it won't change the national landscape of college football.
Is Washington suddenly going to become a perennial top 10 team ? NO ! Is Iowa suddenly going to challenge the SEC hierarchy? NO !
Tell ya what they will do, that's waste a lot of Jet fuel for OSU to go crush UCLA in Los Angeles with only OSU fans watching.
The SEC broke college football.
Is Washington suddenly going to become a perennial top 10 team ? NO ! Is Iowa suddenly going to challenge the SEC hierarchy? NO !
Tell ya what they will do, that's waste a lot of Jet fuel for OSU to go crush UCLA in Los Angeles with only OSU fans watching.
The SEC broke college football.
This post was edited on 8/3/23 at 7:25 pm
Posted on 8/3/23 at 7:21 pm to scrooster
You are positively obsessed with Texas.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 9:09 pm to GeorgeWest
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The Big10 already has a more lucrative TV contract than the SEC is getting. Each Big 10 school may end up with $15-$20 million more than each SEC school. Rutgers will get more $$$ for their games than Bama, UGA, or LSU. Thanks Mr Sankey.
From the outside looking in, without the implicit bias of being in the SEC, objectively, it would be a problem. Yes, the SEC has had the sport on lock for about two decades, but the outlook for college football is changing rapidly and to say the SEC will fare better overall with less money over a long haul is dumb. The only thing the SEC has going for it right now is the culture and proximity to quality recruits.
That all changes when colleges can straight up buy recruits in an NIL-centered sport. It’s in transition right now and the SEC fared well by adding two historically well run teams. But if they could manage to grab Clemson, Florida state and let’s say a TCU for eyeballs sake, that would have a significant long-game effect.
If you think the SEC can continue to dominate simply because they’ve had a good run, you’ve got a painfully short-sided view of how quickly money can change everything.
If we had to shoot for 20, Clemson, Florida State, TCU and North Carolina probably make the most sense culturally and strategically.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 9:15 pm to RedDirt
Yeah and, frick texas.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 9:22 pm to RedDirt
I don’t think there is any point in 20 because certain teams are not coming without another instate partner in the transition. UVA+VT and UNC+NCST may get forced by their legislatures.
24 teams is the better number anyway. Essentially split up into two 12 team conferences. 4 division winners play in a conference playoff.
24 teams is the better number anyway. Essentially split up into two 12 team conferences. 4 division winners play in a conference playoff.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 9:26 pm to GAT BoilerPickle Doc
SEc has been getting owned in TV deals since that retarded POS Mike Slive was in charge. It's our tradition now.
Welcome to the shitshow morons.
Welcome to the shitshow morons.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 9:28 pm to MNW
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Clemson and FSU averaged 2.59M and 2.03M viewers per game last year, respectively. UNC and UVA were 849k and 247k.
When discussing these schools basketball numbers are important.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 6:37 am to MNW
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Clemson and FSU averaged 2.59M and 2.03M viewers per game last year, respectively. UNC and UVA were 849k and 247k.
Clemson games were 10 times more valuable than UVA games last year
Exactly my point. Clemson and FSU are already in states with high populations, hence why their viewership numbers are high because SC and Florida fans both tune into their games. The SEC needs new TV audiences.
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