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re: Does Kirby waste the most talent in the SEC?

Posted on 5/2/21 at 7:38 am to
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 5/2/21 at 7:38 am to
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Georgia retains talent and cant win shite with them



Really? In the last 5 years we have won the SEC, a playoff game and played for the National Championship. I'll take that. It beats MState by a mile.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
15965 posts
Posted on 5/2/21 at 7:40 am to
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Only one was allowed to transfer without sitting out. Odd. Why? What do you think about that?



tOSU has better advocates than Washington. Weird deflection
Posted by tgrmeat
Member since Sep 2020
4341 posts
Posted on 5/2/21 at 7:40 am to
Well he does do less with more than about any coach I can think of.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32872 posts
Posted on 5/2/21 at 7:56 am to
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tOSU has better advocates than Washington. Weird deflection


No, sounds like a load of your imaginative BS, so that’s not it.

Anyways, Fields never leaves without assurance that he was getting approved immediately. IOW, He wasn’t leaving to sit out a season like Eason and others did. Uga was essentially the first victim of immediate approval. Do you support immediate approval?
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
15965 posts
Posted on 5/2/21 at 8:08 am to
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Anyways, Fields never leaves without assurance that he was getting approved immediately.


A better advocate felt the chances were high. There were no absolutes involved. You do understand that right. Advocates can look at a case and judge the odds. And Fields case with the overt racism prevalent in the UGA fan base and student body gave him a strong case.

You know what would have kept him from transferring? Competent QB management. Allowing him to throw a forward pass in garbage time instead of just handing it off. Not setting him up to fail with asinine play calling. Allowing an open and honest QB competition like he was told during his recruitment.

But I get it UGA just had bad luck that Fields transferred.
Posted by PlateJohnsonIII
Member since Feb 2020
6159 posts
Posted on 5/2/21 at 8:10 am to
He is one of the shittiest coaches in the league.
He’s just a straight up loser.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
22848 posts
Posted on 5/2/21 at 8:10 am to
Yeah that overt UGA racism. So rare to see a black don the red and white.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25597 posts
Posted on 5/2/21 at 8:20 am to
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Allowing an open and honest QB competition like he was told during his recruitment.


This is the biggest lesson that kirby learned.

But there is a fundamental problem with an equal competition between a returning starter and early enrollee who is a little over 1 month removed from high school.

An equal competition would require rewinding the offense back to month 1 installs. The biggest growth in an offense is going from y1 to y2 with the same coordinator and QB.

It may be possible to have an equal competition... but im not smart enough to figure out how to do it. Either fields needs to be 13 months smarter. Or fromm needs to practice slowly like he is 13 months less competent.

For the record, fromm had great growth from 2017 to 2018 (2018 was possibly a top 10 QB season of all time at UGA... possibly as should have been expected with that y2 opportunity).

For as much as Fields was correct in his assessment in the spring, i think he was in a reality that would have duplicated at every other school with the same circumstance (returning OC and QB continuing their growth together).
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32872 posts
Posted on 5/2/21 at 8:21 am to
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better advocate felt the chances were high. There were no absolutes involved. You do understand that right. Advocates can look at a case and judge the odds.


Potato potato. He knew the odds were heavy in his favor is the point. IOW, He wasn’t leaving knowing he had to sit out a season like Eason and others did.

Uga was essentially the first victim of immediate approval. Do you support immediate approval?

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You know what would have kept him from transferring? Competent QB management. Allowing him to throw a forward pass in garbage time instead of just handing it off. Not setting him up to fail with asinine play calling. Allowing an open and honest QB competition like he was told during his recruitment.


The only 2 ways he was not leaving:

1: being named starter
2: no immediate approval at Ohio state
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27298 posts
Posted on 5/2/21 at 8:31 am to
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For the record, fromm had great growth from 2017 to 2018 (2018 was possibly a top 10 QB season of all time at UGA... possibly as should have been expected with that y2 opportunity


It was the 2nd best season ever by a QB at UGA.Only Aaron Murray had better year his Jr season.
Posted by Hogfan13
Member since Jul 2019
2950 posts
Posted on 5/2/21 at 8:36 am to
Not as much as 2020 LSU.

0.7 wins per NFL draft pick. Oof!
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25597 posts
Posted on 5/2/21 at 8:36 am to
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It was the 2nd best season ever by a QB at UGA.Only Aaron Murray had better year his Jr season.


From a QB efficiency standpoint, i think you are correct. There are a lot of other metrics that can be used, though (passing yards, TDs, etc..)

I first thought top 5, but then backed it down to top 10. It is like comparing a running back with 100 touches (mostly 3rd down or red zone) in a season to a running back with 225+ in all situations. Could Sony do what Chubb did when gurley was hurt? But Sony looked better in his limited touches because of his averages and TDs per touch.
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
11661 posts
Posted on 5/2/21 at 8:40 am to
Kirby and UGA are one elite QB (actually performing) away from winning that big ole trophy. I hope they don't get one. LOL

Oh and you never want to read that LSU has a really good QB from outside the state of Loseranna. That could be trouble with all the talent they have at all other spots. Most all of the QB's from Loseranna have a i3 processor while a i5 is required to get on the big stage.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46488 posts
Posted on 5/2/21 at 8:42 am to
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I hope they don't get one. LOL


Two 5*s on campus with a third in the 2022 class for an offense that isn’t a total dinosaur anymore
Posted by cyarrr
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2017
3354 posts
Posted on 5/2/21 at 8:51 am to
The spinning going on in this thread is making me dizzy
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
11661 posts
Posted on 5/2/21 at 8:52 am to
Rankings are great but actually performance pays the bills. Trying to keep two really good QB's on your roster is going to be next to impossible going forward and that covers all programs. All teams will be one injury at QB away from being in trouble.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22353 posts
Posted on 5/2/21 at 8:55 am to
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Rankings are great but actually performance pays the bills. Trying to keep two really good QB's on your roster is going to be next to impossible going forward and that covers all programs. All teams will be one injury at QB away from being in trouble


Gonna impact other positions as well.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25597 posts
Posted on 5/2/21 at 9:01 am to
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Are we talking about the CB that had one interception


Led the team in PBUs.
Led DBs in tackles for a loss.
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was constantly beat

I dont think you understand the definition of "constantly".
He gave up 4 TDs last season. All to first round draft picks this past week.

He was the 5th player taken in the draft that was 3 years removed from HS.
It was more than raw talent.

It is correct to say that he needs to continue to improve. But that can be said for every DB in the draft. Campbell gives the nfl a player capable of covering either a Pitts or Waddle. He gives the nfl an a+ run defender and blitz option at DB. His versatility is what made him do so well in 2020.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46488 posts
Posted on 5/2/21 at 9:01 am to
I’m just happy we are at a point in our offensive philosophy that we can attract high floor QBs to compete for the spot. To your point, attrition is going to happen but that makes it a game of how stocked can you keep the cupboard and right now we are doing pretty well in that regard
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
37774 posts
Posted on 5/2/21 at 9:02 am to
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Does Kirby waste the most talent in the SEC?


Yes. Not even remotely close

Also Georgia has the most sensitive fans in the SEC. with that combo you have these very long threads every time they feel threatened
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