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re: Does it bother you to see ESPN profit off of college players?

Posted on 8/4/13 at 9:19 pm to
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 8/4/13 at 9:19 pm to
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Doesn't bother me, but they should receive a percentage of the bowl money



The only way you could do it was to have each school hand out the same amount of money to each player. Otherwise, the recruiting implications would absolutely destroy smaller schools.


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and they need to be allowed to leave after 1 year like basketball.



That's an NFL rule, not NCAA. You have to be three years removed from HS graduation, or three years of college ball under your belt to play in the NFL.
Posted by Bama Bird
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 8/4/13 at 9:19 pm to
They're no different than kids getting full scholarships to be in the choir or something. The difference is people actually care about football. Not to mention the legal violations when you pay only football players, or pay them more than others
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 8/4/13 at 9:20 pm to
No, honestly.
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
21958 posts
Posted on 8/4/13 at 9:20 pm to
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Espn is making all kinds of money running a story off a player making profits (albeit illegally) off the name made through his own hard work. The players take all the risk while the school and ESPN make huge profits.


No. No, it does not.
Posted by Indfanfromcol
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
14723 posts
Posted on 8/4/13 at 9:20 pm to
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When is the last time someone got drafted by the NFL that didn't play college football?



Well, that brings me to my point. It isn't like ESPN is the only one benefiting from all the exposure they get.
Posted by DocBugbear
Arlington, Texas
Member since Mar 2008
7956 posts
Posted on 8/4/13 at 9:20 pm to
As I said in the other thread...

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It's the NCAA that prevents them from capitalizing. ESPN would be more than happy to throw money at star players if the NCAA allowed it.
Posted by Bama Bird
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 8/4/13 at 9:21 pm to
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That's an NFL rule, not NCAA. You have to be three years removed from HS graduation, or three years of college ball under your belt to play in the NFL.


And not to mention the fact that the one-and-done rule is has the worst consequences of any rule in sports
Posted by Upperaltiger06
North Alabama
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 8/4/13 at 9:21 pm to
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Posted by Message LSU GrandDad Does it bother you to see ESPN profit off of college players? what's your problem? espn is a corporation that sells sports news and sports feaure programs for profit. they did not "invent" this story to make profit. it is their job to report NEWSWORTHY sports stories. the heisman trophy winner, a freshman and the most exciting qb in the game, is being accused of a major ncaa violation. it is news. the college game is news. saying that espn makes profits off of college players is absurd. are you a communist?


Yea man........I'm a communist.
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
51819 posts
Posted on 8/4/13 at 9:22 pm to
Yes. What JFF did was wrong based on the rules, but it's completely fricked up his college career could be over because he made money over what he worked so hard to accomplish. It's a completely fricked up situation. If a 5 year old actor can make millions for making a commercial or movie, an athlete should be able to earn money for what they've done.
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
Dystopia (but well cared for)
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25235 posts
Posted on 8/4/13 at 9:22 pm to
There would definitely be some Title IX/Bella Abzug issues.
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
89833 posts
Posted on 8/4/13 at 9:23 pm to
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You're right. Spending five years on that sociology diploma will really pay dividends.



lol...

You make it sound as if these kids, who announce their college intentions via ESPN, tweet nonstop, and who have been following ESPN since birth have no idea of how the system works.

The great one's get to train for pro jobs.

The average one's get to audition for pro jobs and get a free diploma, which does not have to be sociology.

The less-than-average one's get to keep playing a sport that they love, have an outside chance of maybe making a roster, and get a free degree.

The shitty one's get to keep playing a sport they love and have a chance to get a free degree.

This is not slave labor here.
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37298 posts
Posted on 8/4/13 at 9:23 pm to
Doesn't bother me in the slightest.
Posted by Bama Bird
Member since Dec 2011
Member since Mar 2013
19024 posts
Posted on 8/4/13 at 9:23 pm to
No question. And then there would be lawsuits from the smaller schools who aren't making money. Keep in mind, only about 10 schools are actually running in the black
Posted by MUTIGERFAN
St. Louis, MO
Member since Nov 2012
51 posts
Posted on 8/4/13 at 9:24 pm to
No. What bothers me is A&M selling a seat at a dinner to sit with their two Heisman winners for $20,000 and one is a sophomore.
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 8/4/13 at 9:25 pm to
Right. And ultimately, Chancellors aren't going to allow semi-pro teams on their campus.
Posted by Indfanfromcol
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
14723 posts
Posted on 8/4/13 at 9:25 pm to
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lol...

You make it sound as if these kids, who announce their college intentions via ESPN, tweet nonstop, and who have been following ESPN since birth have no idea of how the system works.

The great one's get to train for pro jobs.

The average one's get to audition for pro jobs and get a free diploma, which does not have to be sociology.

The less-than-average one's get to keep playing a sport that they love, have an outside chance of maybe making a roster, and get a free degree.

The shitty one's get to keep playing a sport they love and have a chance to get a free degree.

This is not slave labor here.



All of this. I am not against giving the players a little spending money too, but that isn't on ESPN. That is on the NCAA and the universities that seem to blindly follow their rules.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 8/4/13 at 9:25 pm to
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Players need to be paid


this issue has been hashed out a lot and it appears there is a strong feeling for payment of some sort. in fact, the ncaa passed a resolution or rule or something a while back proposing a stripend. there are HUGE problems with this in many colleges; most which are barely hanging on with their football teams now and have to use state money to do so. remember, football is but one sport on campuses and they already pay for most of the others. you pay jff (who i understand comes from a wealthy family) and you gotta pay every athlete on campus. the real question is whether college sports are amateur or professional sports. it seems many want that distintion to evaporate. you can't have it both ways. maybe the nfl should just have a minor league system, like mlb. that would stop all of this so said "exploitation".
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 8/4/13 at 9:25 pm to
Except for Gee.
Posted by Ortho Reb
New Orleans, LA
Member since Dec 2011
9466 posts
Posted on 8/4/13 at 9:27 pm to
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Should the kids play for free?


Getting a scholarship isn't playing for free, and the ones that don't are playing for the love of the game.
Posted by dreaux
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2006
40881 posts
Posted on 8/4/13 at 9:29 pm to
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No. What bothers me is A&M selling a seat at a dinner to sit with their two Heisman winners for $20,000 and one is a sophomore.


That's pretty messed up. It would be strange to be so valuable and not be able to take any monetary compensation for anything. But at the same time, everyone else can.
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