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re: Does it bother you to see ESPN profit off of college players?
Posted on 8/4/13 at 9:30 pm to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
Posted on 8/4/13 at 9:30 pm to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
The problem lies in the NCAA's mandate of having to be out of high school 3 years, and not having minor league systems in the NFL. Do it like baseball...either declare for the draft and get paid, or follow the rules. Football athletes don't have an option.
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Posted on 8/4/13 at 9:32 pm to Upperaltiger06
No not at all... players shouldn't be paid either. Enough sports are disappearing due to title ix, paying players will be the kiss of death to every sport but football and basketball.
Posted on 8/4/13 at 9:32 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
That's not up to the NCAA. That's because a legitimate semi-pro league never developed; one that maintained its position underneath the NFL and didn't have dreams of being one with the NFL.
Posted on 8/4/13 at 9:32 pm to LSU GrandDad
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this issue has been hashed out a lot and it appears there is a strong feeling for payment of some sort. in fact, the ncaa passed a resolution or rule or something a while back proposing a stripend. there are HUGE problems with this in many colleges; most which are barely hanging on with their football teams now and have to use state money to do so. remember, football is but one sport on campuses and they already pay for most of the others. you pay jff (who i understand comes from a wealthy family) and you gotta pay every athlete on campus. the real question is whether college sports are amateur or professional sports. it seems many want that distintion to evaporate. you can't have it both ways. maybe the nfl should just have a minor league system, like mlb. that would stop all of this so said "exploitation".
well said. College football is minor league NFL. Why would the NFL want to change? The college does all the hard work (training, development and coaching) and they do nothing. 
Posted on 8/4/13 at 9:34 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
There is no way that a 17/18 year old kid would be able to make it on an NFL roster, and the NFL already has a minor league system in place - the NCAA. Therefore, the NFL is not going to change up it's business model to make every team start-up multiple farm teams when the current model works exceedingly well.
Posted on 8/4/13 at 9:34 pm to Bama Bird
I'm not saying it is up to the NCAA...I'm saying that's why we have a fricked up situation with college football. At least give the athletes an option.
Posted on 8/4/13 at 9:35 pm to RummelTiger
Yes it does. No way the model changes.
Posted on 8/4/13 at 9:39 pm to RummelTiger
Well, if the NCAA is gonna be the farm system for the NFL and not MLB or NBA, they need to compensate the athletes. Why give basketball and baseball highschool athletes more advantages than a football player?
Posted on 8/4/13 at 9:40 pm to dreaux
How bout NFL teams paying the stipend for NCAA football players.
Posted on 8/4/13 at 9:41 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
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I'm saying that's why we have a fricked up situation with college football.
But, it's not fricked-up. It works fantastically well.
The NCAA puts an incredible product on the field and the NFL puts an incredible product on the field.
Some cry for the athletes not making any money from the business, but that's the deal. Again, if the NCAA wants to institute an allowable stipend that the schools can give all of the athletes, then great, but be prepared for NCAA football to look drastically different if that happens.
The NCAA would have to set up a third tier for schools as most of the mid-majors would not be able to pay all of the athletes like the big schools could.
Posted on 8/4/13 at 9:43 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
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Well, if the NCAA is gonna be the farm system for the NFL and not MLB or NBA, they need to compensate the athletes.
No, they don't...obviously.
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Why give basketball and baseball highschool athletes more advantages than a football player?
Again, it's NOT the NCAA making the "when you can go pro decision", it's the NFL!
And ask the NFL why they don't have farm teams - not the NCAA...
Posted on 8/4/13 at 9:46 pm to Upperaltiger06
No
This said as a doctor who goes through years of not being paid shite
This said as a doctor who goes through years of not being paid shite
Posted on 8/4/13 at 9:50 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
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an athlete should be able to earn money for what they've done.
they can. the problem is not college football it's the nfl not letting in younger players and refusing to set up a minor league system for the atletes not wanting to attend college. as it stands, a football player must wait until he's 21 yrs old. personally, i don't see how that is legal.
Posted on 8/4/13 at 9:52 pm to Upperaltiger06
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Should the kids play for free?
They don't they probably receive hundreds of thousands of dollars in education and other luxuries. How many of us actually feel sorry for these guys. Seriously? They're living a dream only a very few get to live.
Posted on 8/4/13 at 10:01 pm to Upperaltiger06
Posted on 8/4/13 at 10:03 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
Obviously it comes down to the amount of money being made. Since it's in the millions for the large universities, then people think that there's a lot to go around, which might be so. But the revenue from football also helps to keep other programs afloat and, at least at LSU, the athletic department kicks money over to the general fund for the university. It's not as if the football program hoards it all for themselves.
How come nobody clamors for HS athletes? As athletes that make money for their school/district, do you think that they need to be paid as well?
How come nobody clamors for HS athletes? As athletes that make money for their school/district, do you think that they need to be paid as well?
Posted on 8/4/13 at 10:12 pm to LSU GrandDad
the problem is not college football it's the nfl not letting in younger players and refusing to set up a minor league system for the atletes not wanting to attend college. as it stands
Agreed. It's a double standard and it sucks for the football player. I'm a high school athlete who excels in all sports. I see a baseball player who got a one million dollar signing bonus to go play minor league ball for 5 years, I see my fellow basketball teammate sign a million dollar contract to go to the NBA or European League for a couple of years, and you're telling me because I play football, I have to stay broke for 3 years before I'm eligible to get paid?
Agreed. It's a double standard and it sucks for the football player. I'm a high school athlete who excels in all sports. I see a baseball player who got a one million dollar signing bonus to go play minor league ball for 5 years, I see my fellow basketball teammate sign a million dollar contract to go to the NBA or European League for a couple of years, and you're telling me because I play football, I have to stay broke for 3 years before I'm eligible to get paid?
Posted on 8/4/13 at 10:13 pm to Bama Bird
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No question. And then there would be lawsuits from the smaller schools who aren't making money. Keep in mind, only about 10 schools are actually running in the black
What if the players were making money not through the university, but privately as this JFF incident? Why should the NCAA have any say in it? What if it were a law mowing business?
Posted on 8/4/13 at 10:15 pm to RummelTiger
The folks who want to see athletes like Johnny football earn monies through the sale of his signature bearing articles are missinbg the point of what the can of worms are that could be released.
1) WHO is willing to pay lots of money for college athletes autographs and signature on personal items? Hmmmmm...let me think for a minute, its....hmmmm ALUMNI BOOSTERS. What we would open the doors to is wholesale merchandising of an athlete like a brand. Agents? You betcha...cause you wanna get top dollar and get paid handsomely. It would turn into a real farce in recruiting...the big powerful monied schools could wave dollar signs at 17 yr old kids and promise them that THEIR school has well heeled boosters who will pay top dollar for any autographs etc etc
Its suppose to be amatuers in college and thats why its 100x better than the NFL.
1) WHO is willing to pay lots of money for college athletes autographs and signature on personal items? Hmmmmm...let me think for a minute, its....hmmmm ALUMNI BOOSTERS. What we would open the doors to is wholesale merchandising of an athlete like a brand. Agents? You betcha...cause you wanna get top dollar and get paid handsomely. It would turn into a real farce in recruiting...the big powerful monied schools could wave dollar signs at 17 yr old kids and promise them that THEIR school has well heeled boosters who will pay top dollar for any autographs etc etc
Its suppose to be amatuers in college and thats why its 100x better than the NFL.
Posted on 8/4/13 at 10:18 pm to Ortho Reb
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Getting a scholarship isn't playing for free, and the ones that don't are playing for the love of the game.
Must be why ESPN and the schools do it, too. The love of the game. What's Herbstreit's salary? And the coaches.....love of the game. What's the lowest salary in the SEC?
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