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re: Does it bother you to see ESPN profit off of college players?
Posted on 8/5/13 at 5:16 pm to Bernie Moore
Posted on 8/5/13 at 5:16 pm to Bernie Moore
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When players are allowed to sell their autographs etc, you open the door for jealousy over the income disparity among players. Instead of team work, kids are encouraged to want individual stats to enhance their earnings for autographs and commercials for local and even national brands.
You can say these same things about every occupation or station in life.
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 5:17 pm to BamaGradinTn
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So once again...just to be clear...you are advocating that the University of Alabama and Nick Saban, through private boosters, be able to develop a system where those third party boosters can create an organization where players who come to Alabama can legally be paid an unlimited sum of money. Right?
Nope.
Posted on 8/5/13 at 5:26 pm to Upperaltiger06
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The players take all the risk while the school and ESPN make huge profits.
Maybe these hard working athletes could get together and form their own league.
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Upperaltiger06
Posted on 8/5/13 at 10:34 pm to Upperaltiger06
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Upperaltiger06
Does it bother you to see ESPN profit off of college players?
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So once again...just to be clear...you are advocating that the University of Alabama and Nick Saban, through private boosters, be able to develop a system where those third party boosters can create an organization where players who come to Alabama can legally be paid an unlimited sum of money. Right?
Nope.
Then you obviously don't grasp the concept of "third party". That's one reason why other posters have disparaged your intelligence. Boosters are third party individuals. Currently, the NCAA expects the athletic departments to control them. You said that players should be able to make however much money they can from private individuals. Newsflash: Private individuals who funnel money to players are called boosters.
"I'm not talking about the university paying the player. I'm speaking of 3rd parties". Those were your words, correct? I could start a non-profit organization for the purposes of raising money to funnel to Alabama football players in return for autographs, car washing, or whatever else you mentioned. I could raise literally millions of dollars and pay every Alabama football player six-figure stipends for autographs, raking leaves, baby sitting...whatever. Maybe even a cool million to McCarron, Yeldon, and a select few others. Minimum of $100,000 if you are on scholarship, and go up from there. And it would all be private, outside the control of the university. Nick Saban could encourage that and use that as a recruiting tool on the recruiting trail, because the university wouldn't be paying the players everything. All would be perfectly legal in the system you advocated, because the University would have no role in raising or spending the money.
"What if he was an employee being paid a $100 hour to wash cars? Can the NCAA punish him for that?" Also your words. You're obviously too young to remember Rhett Bomar, and that was only 7 years ago. What are you, about 22?
This post was edited on 8/5/13 at 10:48 pm
Posted on 8/5/13 at 10:45 pm to BamaGradinTn
Third party could also be a sports memorabilia broker. It's a pretty general term. What if Manziel auctioned them off on eBay himself?
In summary: I understand that there are rules in place to prevent this. My point is that it is hypocritical that large institutions make huge amounts of money off players all the while preventing those players from profiting off the same thing. I understand the players earn 'free' degrees, eat food, amd live well, but coaches, ADs, SEC & NCAA execs, and ESPN commentators are being paid millions. I realize most people disagree with me. Thank you for bringing up a dead topic.
In summary: I understand that there are rules in place to prevent this. My point is that it is hypocritical that large institutions make huge amounts of money off players all the while preventing those players from profiting off the same thing. I understand the players earn 'free' degrees, eat food, amd live well, but coaches, ADs, SEC & NCAA execs, and ESPN commentators are being paid millions. I realize most people disagree with me. Thank you for bringing up a dead topic.
Posted on 8/5/13 at 10:51 pm to Upperaltiger06
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Upperaltiger06
Does it bother you to see ESPN profit off of college players?
Third party could also be a sports memorabilia broker.
"Could be" a broker. It also includes boosters. What if it's AJ McCarron and he auctions them on ebay, and I organize other boosters to bid it up and make sure he makes a cool $500,000? And McCarron knows he will have the ability to do this when he signs with Alabama.
You don't like that institutions make huge money off the players, but you don't bother to take the time to rub a couple of brain cells together and actually think about the consequences of what you are advocating.
Posted on 8/5/13 at 10:54 pm to Upperaltiger06
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Thank you for bringing up a dead topic.
The one thing more pitiful than being extremely stupid is to be extremely stupid and a real a-hole at the same time. You just continue to prove with every post you make that you either don't have the brain cells to make a logical thought, or you're too lazy to use them. Either way, you really should save yourself any further embarrassment and just shut up about the subject.
Posted on 8/5/13 at 11:28 pm to BamaGradinTn
This is a sensitive topic for you?
Also, what kind of a fanbase would give $500,000 in total for autographs? I guess bama is a prime candidate.
Also, what kind of a fanbase would give $500,000 in total for autographs? I guess bama is a prime candidate.
This post was edited on 8/5/13 at 11:35 pm
Posted on 8/6/13 at 6:37 am to Upperaltiger06
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What if he has a career ending injury while making all this money for third parties? What if he has a life changing injury like the kid from Rutgers? I'm not saying he doesn't benefit from the industry, just in most cases the main attraction gets a cut.
That's a fair point. But, if he does he gets a good education, hopefully. The opportunity is there. What if you are injured at work and become disabled? You are injured while your company makes a ton of money. AND, remember, players are using the Universities as much as the Universities are using them. The main attraction, (The player) gets his education. Every player on the field realizes there is a risk involved when they step on the field. If they are smart, they will take out an insurance policy......PARTICULARLY if they believe they are a NFL prospect.
It's just my opinion......doesn't mean I am right.
Posted on 8/6/13 at 12:27 pm to Upperaltiger06
They really aren't playing for free. Kids that are on academic scholarship aren't provided food, and can you imagine how much one of these players eat in one day. They don't have gym/weight room fees, and if they're hurt they are taken care of by the trainer, and that's not for regular students. It's like people that are interns for jobs. You're in training for a better job later, and you don't get paid. If you're not that good of a player, take advantage of this and get that degree. It doesn't matter what it's in, because a lot of people get jobs that were not in their major field. Just get the degree.
If the players are good enough to go pro, there will be plenty of time to get paid for autographs, and it will be worth more then.
If the players are good enough to go pro, there will be plenty of time to get paid for autographs, and it will be worth more then.
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