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re: Does it bother you to see ESPN profit off of college players?
Posted on 8/4/13 at 10:45 pm to Upperaltiger06
Posted on 8/4/13 at 10:45 pm to Upperaltiger06
I don't think anybody that uses the NCAA's likeness, she give any type of endorsement royalties or anything like that to the players.
Even though EA Sports has decommissioned its partnership with the NCAA, what about all the other players in those video games that are being used? Not just that example specifically, but you get my point. Why worry about paying some 18-22 year old brat. Players in the NFL aren't even remotely responsible with their money half the time. What makes you think JFF isn't gonna be just like those dudes?
Even though EA Sports has decommissioned its partnership with the NCAA, what about all the other players in those video games that are being used? Not just that example specifically, but you get my point. Why worry about paying some 18-22 year old brat. Players in the NFL aren't even remotely responsible with their money half the time. What makes you think JFF isn't gonna be just like those dudes?
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Posted on 8/4/13 at 10:46 pm to RummelTiger
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No. Why would it? Should ESPN broadcast games for free? The kids know the rules before they walk on campus, so please...
Posted on 8/4/13 at 10:47 pm to Upperaltiger06
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Should the kids play for free?
They aren't playing for free.
They can leave HS and walk on to an NFL team if they want. Nobody makes them go to college.
However, most would say it is wise to go to the college route. Why? All the free shite you get for playing football. Free education. Free supplements. Free training facilities. Free training. Free coaching. Free exposure.
This post was edited on 8/4/13 at 10:50 pm
Posted on 8/4/13 at 10:49 pm to Upperaltiger06
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Espn is making all kinds of money running a story off a player making profits (albeit illegally) off the name made through his own hard work. The players take all the risk while the school and ESPN make huge profits.
In this case get rid of athletic scholarships. Let them go to some sort of minor league ball to get paid.
Obviously a scholarship to very good university's have no value.
To answer the original question, no it does not.
This post was edited on 8/4/13 at 10:51 pm
Posted on 8/4/13 at 10:51 pm to RBWilliams8
Athletes get a stipend. When they move off campus, they get money to pay for rent and groceries off campus. I think it's around $800-$1000 per month. Not to mention all the athletic gear they get for free. Oh, and bowl games. They get some pretty sweet items at bowl games. Most of which, gets sold and they profit off of that.
That doesn't happen to normal college students.
Putting college athletes on an actual pay roll would literally kill the sport.
That doesn't happen to normal college students.
Putting college athletes on an actual pay roll would literally kill the sport.
Posted on 8/4/13 at 10:52 pm to RummelTiger
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You keep missing the fact that they ARE being compensated. They're getting scholarships, food, a place to live, access to elite athletic equipment, healthcare, etc.
I'm speaking about compensation outside of the university.....specifically Manziel. Why should the university's relationship with the athlete affect how the athlete earns money privately?
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Also, if you can't answer this:...on your own, then I care not to spend the time and energy explaining it to you.
If you can't explain your own argument, then I don't respect it very much.
Posted on 8/4/13 at 11:00 pm to Upperaltiger06
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I'm speaking about compensation outside of the university.....specifically Manziel. Why should the university's relationship with the athlete affect how the athlete earns money privately?
Christ...are you seriously new to athletics? It affects his status as an amateur.
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If you can't explain your own argument, then I don't respect it very much.
I did when I said that you obviously have never played competitive sports at a high level before. Because if you had, then you would know what it was like to do whatever you could to play just one more game, or one more down/inning...
That cannot be explained.
Posted on 8/4/13 at 11:02 pm to Upperaltiger06
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Does it bother you to see ESPN profit off of college players?
Nope
Posted on 8/4/13 at 11:10 pm to RummelTiger
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Christ...are you seriously new to athletics? It affects his status as an amateur.
I understand that those rules exist. So how does it make sense to have those rules? So that players can't make money? So that they universities don't have to share income? I really feel like you're close to understanding what I'm saying.
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I did when I said that you obviously have never played competitive sports at a high level before. Because if you had, then you would know what it was like to do whatever you could to play just one more game, or one more down/inning... That cannot be explained.
Again, if you cannot explain it, then it's not useful for debate. Why couldn't you say the same for a coach....just one more down.....one more play. I'm getting misty just thinking about it.
Posted on 8/4/13 at 11:13 pm to Upperaltiger06
Dude, I can't help that you're stupid and not athletic.
Write your congressman, picket outside Jordan-Hare, go on a fricking hunger strike until athletes get paid.
I don't care.
Have a good night.
Write your congressman, picket outside Jordan-Hare, go on a fricking hunger strike until athletes get paid.
I don't care.
Have a good night.
Posted on 8/4/13 at 11:15 pm to RummelTiger
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Does it bother you to see ESPN profit off of college players? Dude, I can't help that you're stupid and not athletic. Write your congressman, picket outside Jordan-Hare, go on a fricking hunger strike until athletes get paid. I don't care. Have a good night.
Stupid? At least I can explain my argument.
Posted on 8/4/13 at 11:27 pm to Upperaltiger06
He has explained it. You just don't understand it.
Over 4 years an athlete at Arkansas gets $80-90k in education.
$800-$1000/month living expenses which =$upwards of $12k/year and upwards of $48k over 4 years.
Free Nike attire, that's costs the average person at least $30/pop. So, roughly another $3-4k a year seems fair in wardrobe.
I'm not about to attempt figures on food. Food and nutrition regular college students do not have access to. Nor will I attempt to figure out a free membership to the top weight facility in the state, one of the best in the nation. As well as now being in a new state of the art$50-60 million football facility.
What is it that you don't understand? They're already being paid.
Over 4 years an athlete at Arkansas gets $80-90k in education.
$800-$1000/month living expenses which =$upwards of $12k/year and upwards of $48k over 4 years.
Free Nike attire, that's costs the average person at least $30/pop. So, roughly another $3-4k a year seems fair in wardrobe.
I'm not about to attempt figures on food. Food and nutrition regular college students do not have access to. Nor will I attempt to figure out a free membership to the top weight facility in the state, one of the best in the nation. As well as now being in a new state of the art$50-60 million football facility.
What is it that you don't understand? They're already being paid.
Posted on 8/4/13 at 11:34 pm to Hawgeye
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Does it bother you to see ESPN profit off of college players? He has explained it. You just don't understand it. Over 4 years an athlete at Arkansas gets $80-90k in education. $800-$1000/month living expenses which =$upwards of $12k/year and upwards of $48k over 4 years. Free Nike attire, that's costs the average person at least $30/pop. So, roughly another $3-4k a year seems fair in wardrobe. I'm not about to attempt figures on food. Food and nutrition regular college students do not have access to. Nor will I attempt to figure out a free membership to the top weight facility in the state, one of the best in the nation. As well as now being in a new state of the art$50-60 million football facility. What is it that you don't understand? They're already being paid.
What I'm asking is does he deserve the right to sell his autograph? Appear at parties for money? Train high school football players for pay? Where do you draw the line?
For instance, you probably work as a janitor at Walmart. If you became the most badass janitor of any Walmart and people started offering you money for your autograph, should Walmart have any say in you posting items on eBay? That's not to say that is there policy. Check with human resources tomorrow.
Posted on 8/4/13 at 11:39 pm to Upperaltiger06
Really.....
Posted on 8/4/13 at 11:46 pm to Upperaltiger06
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Upperaltiger06
SHUT
THE
frick
UP
Posted on 8/4/13 at 11:46 pm to Hawgeye
I'm picking on you, but if you are a teacher, lay bricks, work for a law firm, are a politician, etc., should they be able to stop you from selling your autograph?
Posted on 8/4/13 at 11:47 pm to flyAU
Yes sir.
Posted on 8/4/13 at 11:49 pm to Upperaltiger06
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I'm picking on you, but if you are a teacher, lay bricks, work for a law firm, are a politician, etc., should they be able to stop you from selling your autograph?
As I was saying before, it is a contract that you sign (as I did with my company about non compete). Bitch about changing the contract. Not about the poor idiot adult that didnt follow the contract.
Posted on 8/4/13 at 11:53 pm to flyAU
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As I was saying before, it is a contract that you sign (as I did with my company about non compete). Bitch about changing the contract. Not about the poor idiot adult that didnt follow the contract.
That's what I am bitching about. It's a nonsense rule.
Posted on 8/5/13 at 12:42 am to Upperaltiger06
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That's what I am bitching about. It's a nonsense rule.
So we agree that someone breaking the current rule is an idiot and should face penalties. Right?
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