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re: Do you still look at high school recruiting the same?

Posted on 1/7/24 at 3:04 pm to
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
9967 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 3:04 pm to
Barely care. Half the class will leave after a year, portal is open. Doesn't matter much anymore.
Posted by Lord of the Hogs
Member since Sep 2023
1584 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 3:04 pm to
I don’t follow recruiting at all anymore. What’s the point when players just enter the portal left and right?
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
14015 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 3:06 pm to
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Eventually the power players are going to agree that something must be done to rationalize the labor-side business of the sport.

I'd like to see the P5 agree to not accept transfers from other P5s. You want to transfer? Enjoy your career at Western Kentucky.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
9967 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 3:16 pm to
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I'd like to see the P5 agree to not accept transfers from other P5s. You want to transfer? Enjoy your career at Western Kentucky.


This is solved with contracts. Pay the kids directly, lock them into at least a two year contract.
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
5570 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 3:19 pm to
How can you?

Now it’s only 50% of your roster building efforts
Posted by lsubruce
baton rouge, la.
Member since Oct 2004
1008 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 3:20 pm to
Don’t care nearly as much since Joe McKnight shoved it up our asses years ago.
Posted by Themicah86
Member since Jun 2023
889 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 3:25 pm to
I mean there's really not much of a reason to follow it that closely the letter of intent they sign isn't worth the piece of paper that it was written on.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
8094 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 3:26 pm to
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I feel UGA and Bama recruit at a similar clip but UGA has a better staff/better player development than Bama.


Is that why Georgia is 1-5 in their last six games against Alabama? Their superior coaching? Or is it their superior development?
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
9446 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 3:34 pm to
A lot of those wins took place before UGA got rolling. We beat UGA this season but I don’t think we are a better program at this time. Our staff is average.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
5931 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 6:35 pm to
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This is solved with contracts. Pay the kids directly, lock them into at least a two year contract.



Even better, put bigger numbers in front of them relative to HS senior money and get them locked in for 3 or 4. It balances the equation a great bit. Instead of now where players get coaching and physical development for a year or two - that costs a lot of money - then bouncing as soon as they can get a pay day.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27256 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 6:36 pm to
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Losing talent and coaches has hurt Saban more than anything. He can't win by hording talent like he did in the


What talent has Saban lost to the portal?
Posted by ManBearSharkReb
Member since Dec 2018
3754 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 6:39 pm to
The “blue bloods” still recruit high school like it’s 2005. Half the guys you sign from high school wont finish at your program. Kinda meaningless to get excited about highly rated high school classes.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27256 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 6:40 pm to
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services, so yeah, it is weird. I still think having the first pass at talent is preferable to having to recruit them on limited eligibility timers.



Right. Saban would rather have an Anderson or turner for 3 years over 1yr
Posted by Clark14
L.A.Hog
Member since Dec 2014
19404 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 7:07 pm to
I’ll pay attention to offensive linemen more than anything. It seems like they are more subject to stay with a program and develop than other positions.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41463 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 7:17 pm to
I couldn’t care less about recruiting or the players in the portal. I just root for whoever runs out of the tunnel with a Gator jersey on.

They are mercenaries just like the coaches now.
Posted by 49 to nada
In aggy and gooner heads, rent free
Member since Sep 2023
1174 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 7:24 pm to
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I used to follow it but now I loosely follow it because of the portal recruiting. What about you?
Wtf man, are you aware that without HS recruiting there would be no portal? In any case the portal thing is too new to know if a team of mostly mercenaries is the key to success, lasting or flash in the pan one and done.

So far I've seen mixed results with coach Primes squad in Colorado and then of course Mich State, but neither resulted in a conference championship much less playoff berth. I think Freshwater and the Rebs will be something to monitor closely next season, but even if it does work there's no guarantee he can keep bringing in fresh soldiers of fortune every year and have the same results.

I think there is still a lot of value in bringing in high school recruits, immersing them in your team culture and coaching..and only using the portal to fill any talent holes that may crop up from either players leaving for the NFL, transferring for whatever reason or simply not panning out.
Posted by aero1126
Member since Oct 2016
324 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 10:20 pm to
Yes, it’s still important but class ranks really don’t mean anything more. Basically, it’s usually not the top recruits from a class who transfer out (unless you’re Aggie) but usually the bottom half who don’t pan out or just don’t get two deep spots.
Posted by Bama Bird
Member since Dec 2011
Member since Mar 2013
19036 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 10:22 pm to
I haven't followed recruiting since 2008. It's basically just copium for mediocre teams
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73512 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 10:30 pm to
Bama should have won every NC for the past 12 years. They sell subs like crazy to gumps.
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