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re: Dark Horse of the SEC East, West and of the NCAA

Posted on 8/28/22 at 7:43 pm to
Posted by CatBBN
Member since Jan 2020
2427 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 7:43 pm to
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UK? The touted QB has not really been impressive.
Everyone loves piling on Levis after one Mock draft. His stats are not that impressive but he still won 10 games after not having a full off season to work with the team. I expect him to be much better now that he has a year under his belt as a starting QB and a full off-season.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53472 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 7:49 pm to
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We lost some people, and replaced them with starters from Alabama, Georgia, LSU and Oklahoma.



Actually.. No, you didn't.

Let's take the LB who transferred from us. Do you think he was the starter? Heads up... he wasn't. He was next man up due to injuries.

If he was a starter here, with that many years left to play, he would have remained.

The CB fro LSU was not starter either. Though he was forced to start some games due to the issues at LSU.


The WR from OU is NO Burks.



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We’ll be fine.


No doubt, Like I said... He's a great guy.

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Arkansas is 2-0 against Miss State.


Yes... he is. Year 1, he barely beat the youngest, most inexperienced team in not just the SEC but the NCAA. In Year 2, you didn't beat them... they beat themselves. Yeah, you got the win, but it had more to do with Ms St not having a kicker.

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Odom has Leach figured out.


No.. If he had, then you would not have allowed 500 yards. They would NOT have had the lead with 2:30 seconds left in the game... and been able to get back into FG as time ran out.


But that's why the games are played!

Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
19758 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 7:51 pm to
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UT? Do they have the Defense?
No.
Posted by Atlbear16
Atlanta
Member since Dec 2017
1453 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 7:53 pm to
Baylor is +220 to make the Big 12 championship. They are +550 to win the Big 12.


Bet the house
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53472 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 7:56 pm to
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Burks was great no doubt, but I don’t see how him leaving will have a negative impact on our rushing game.



Ms St had a top 15 rushing defense last year, and they return that 7 TWO deep. You were one of the games that they didn't look like it, but again... you are on the road this time.

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We’ll miss Burks no doubt, but it’s far from a death blow.




Burks was a beast at getting the ball.



Posted by Clark14
L.A.Hog
Member since Dec 2014
19352 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 9:05 pm to
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Burks was a beast at getting the ball.


We can agree on this.

How’s Columbia doing this year and where is it?
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21260 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 9:28 pm to
Who has Arkansas lost besides Burks from last year that was very significant?
Posted by Rebbedup
Member since Jun 2021
2848 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 10:00 pm to
Mississippi State is out of excuses this year. They should roll except for when they play Bama. Ole Miss doesn’t have anything left over so the State pressure is in Mississippi State.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53472 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 10:54 pm to
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Who has Arkansas lost besides Burks from last year that was very significant?





WRs:

Burks AND the 2 people with the most production under him. De'Vion Warren and Tyson Morris.

You got 1 guy that had 19 catches. Everybody else had less than 10 all year!

TE: You lost your TOP TE with the most experience. Kern started all 13 games in 2021 and appeared in every game the past three seasons.


DL:

Tre Williams, declared for the NFL Draft. Defensive tackle John Ridgeway did, too, and fellow starter at tackle Markell Utsey will not return. Solomon Wright, Andy Boykin and Jalen Williams all decided to transfer.

LB:

Grant Morgan and Hayden Henry won't return. Both were among the top three tacklers on the team.


BD:


LOST 3 STARTERS!!! Joe Foucha and nickelback Greg Brooks Jr. both transferred to LSU, while safety Montaric Brown declared for the NFL Draft. Nick Turner, Jermaine Hamilton-Jordan and Devin Bush also entered the transfer portal.

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Who has Arkansas lost besides Burks from last year that was very significant?





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Who has Arkansas lost



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besides Burks



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that was very significant?





Posted by weremoose
Member since Nov 2015
4170 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 11:45 pm to
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I’m not crazy about 3-4 defense teams tho


I don't like 3-4 much either but I like the way we do it. Or did it last year. Whether I like it this year or not will hinge on how smart & physical our new linebackers play.
This post was edited on 8/28/22 at 11:46 pm
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21260 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 11:52 pm to
Warren barely saw the field and Morris was a walk-on. Both are being replaced by better WRs that Arkansas has recruited well the past two years. Inexperienced but better size and speed.

Blake Kern was a good blocking TE but struggled catching the ball. He is being replaced by WR turned TE Trey Knox who has better hands. Sam has recruited well at this position but needed someone with experience before throwing a freshman on the field.

Tre Williams got busted with drinking and passed at a McDonalds right before the bowl. He was a senior and declared but was undrafted. He was all over the field in the first four games of the season but as Missouri fans warned, he would disappear and he went missing the rest of the year. Utsey like Williams were Missouri rejects that were filler until better players come along. Wright never saw the field, Boykin didn't either. Jalen Williams was buried on the depth chart. John Ridgeway was the only loss and he was a late round draft pick.


Morgan and Henry are decent players and were very fortunate to start at an SEC team when depth was severely limited. You still have leading tackler Bumper Pool and Drew Sanders will fill in one of those spots. Sam has recruited hard at this position and depth is a problem again because of the lack of experience.

Arkansas traded decent players for other decent players from the portal and so no gain or loss at this position and you also forgot to mention Jalen Catalon who missed seven games last year will return and provide a huge boost to the secondary.

Turner and Jordan either saw limited playing time or couldn't get on the field. Bush has flirted with the portal in the past, decided to make it a final decision because of lack of playing time.

Posted by Porcine Human
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Feb 2016
11220 posts
Posted on 8/29/22 at 1:14 am to
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I’m not crazy about 3-4 defense teams tho


Except we're not a 3-4 defense. We've been 3 down linemen, sure, but never 4 linebackers. Pretty sure Odom wants to run more 4 man fronts this year as well
Posted by FlyinHog
TX
Member since Feb 2022
214 posts
Posted on 8/29/22 at 6:02 am to
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So wait, you said 7-6 Miss State was “that close” to being a 10 win team… Over Arkansas who finished 9-4, and lost to Ole Miss 52-51 because we missed a 2 pt conversion as time expired to win. You are really special.


Don’t forget the Bama game at Bama.
Posted by RebelExpress38
In your base, killin your dudes
Member since Apr 2012
13563 posts
Posted on 8/29/22 at 6:40 am to
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Ole Miss.. won a lot of games last year and then the Great Lane failed to recruit.





If Jaxon Dart and Zach Evans were high schoolers would you like them more? Do they not count?
This post was edited on 8/29/22 at 6:43 am
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53472 posts
Posted on 8/29/22 at 11:30 am to
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Warren barely saw the field and Morris was a walk-on. Both are being replaced by better WRs that Arkansas has recruited well the past two years. Inexperienced but better size and speed.



Morris had the second highest production at WR behind Burks.

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Blake Kern was a good blocking TE but struggled catching the ball. He is being replaced by WR turned TE Trey Knox who has better hands. Sam has recruited well at this position but needed someone with experience before throwing a freshman on the field. Tre Williams got busted with drinking and passed at a McDonalds right before the bowl. He was a senior and declared but was undrafted. He was all over the field in the first four games of the season but as Missouri fans warned, he would disappear and he went missing the rest of the year. Utsey like Williams were Missouri rejects that were filler until better players come along. Wright never saw the field, Boykin didn't either. Jalen Williams was buried on the depth chart. John Ridgeway was the only loss and he was a late round draft pick. Morgan and Henry are decent players and were very fortunate to start at an SEC team when depth was severely limited. You still have leading tackler Bumper Pool and Drew Sanders will fill in one of those spots. Sam has recruited hard at this position and depth is a problem again because of the lack of experience.


All I hear is noise. You asked who else you lost, I listed them. Now you are "but but b ut.." And that's ok as long as you "afford" that to other teams.

And when you do that, You have to acknowledge that Ms St did the same thing with the FEW they needed. Example.. They got a great 4 Star CB from us, Marcus Banks. They got a WR from Georgia. etc etc.

So it all goes back to these things.

1- They had the lead on the road with 2:30 left in the game. They missed 4 FGs. One was to tie the game back up.

2- All things are not equal. 18 returning starters who have been in that system 3 years, and most are starters during that time VS bringing in a lot of new people.

3- You are on the road.

4- reports are they recruited 2 kickers.



So I still get back to the point..... You are not going to win at Ms St this year. As a dark horse, that removes you from contention.

Just personal opinion.


Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53472 posts
Posted on 8/29/22 at 11:34 am to
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Ole Miss.. won a lot of games last year and then the Great Lane failed to recruit.






If Jaxon Dart and Zach Evans were high schoolers would you like them more? Do they not count?



The point went right over your head. He had no choice but to go portal because Ms HS coaches (and others) stated Lane was not even bothering to recruit.

He was looking to leave Ole Miss. He had his name in the hat at several jobs.

That always translates well on the field doesn't it....



Posted by rebsfan10
Member since Dec 2013
1566 posts
Posted on 8/29/22 at 12:19 pm to
Why do you even pretend to be a bama fan. Every damn thing you say is to somehow prop up miss state. Which is fine, be a fan and be optimistic about your team. This pretending to be an objective observer is complete shite. Arkansas, ole miss, and state are all relatively close in talent, probably all end up 1-1 against the other 2.
Posted by RebelExpress38
In your base, killin your dudes
Member since Apr 2012
13563 posts
Posted on 8/29/22 at 12:22 pm to
Kiffin has openly stated he prefers more proven transfer portal kids over high school kids for 3 reasons.

1) they have college film. If you were good playing D1 and your film is impressive, that’s a better indicator of success than a good high school tape.

2) They are typically cheaper on NIL. They care less about the NIL amount and more about playing opportunities

3) They will have already used their 1 time penalty free transfer. They are likely to finish their career with you.


Of course the high school coaches will portray this as lane mailing it in but they are biased and think every borderline kid should be getting a shot. Lane’s philosophy is the exact opposite of the 2010 mentality of taking 30 high school kids and hoping most of them work. He treats recruiting like NFL free agency. He would rather save 5 scholarships for portal kids than take 5 borderline high schoolers
Posted by Tunica
Member since May 2018
1789 posts
Posted on 8/29/22 at 12:38 pm to
What the Mississippi State mud pie eating mongoloids fail to realize is that OM is paying Lane 7.25m, a top 10 salary. His kids moved from Cali to live in Oxford. He’s put more skill players on NFL rosters in his first two years than MS State has in this millennium. He had a top 15 class in year 2, something Mississippi State hasn’t done in program history.

Lane isn’t leaving, no matter how badly you runts want it to happen.

This post was edited on 8/29/22 at 12:51 pm
Posted by Insurancerebel
Madison
Member since Aug 2021
1565 posts
Posted on 8/29/22 at 12:40 pm to
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Ole Miss.. won a lot of games last year and then the Great Lane failed to recruit. I think he felt that his stop there would move him up the chain elsewhere. Full out reports from Ms coaches stating he isn't even reaching out nor showing up to recruit. He went portal. When a coach is looking to move on... it always shows up on the field.


Lane is usually a trend setter. He has recruited well just low numbers each year, he fills the holes with transfers who can start day 1. You should start to see some of his high school recruits contributing, next year you will see much more.

ArK was 28th on 247 composite rank, 22nd over all, MSU was 26 composite rank and 31 over all. OM was 27th composite rank and 15th over all. Does that sound like someone being lazy?

QB and LB are the only 2 positions that OM should take a step back on.

That was a lazy assumption of a statement sir



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