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re: College Baseball NIL thoughts

Posted on 7/1/21 at 2:00 pm to
Posted by SaltyMcKracker
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 7/1/21 at 2:00 pm to
Have you seen the avg salary for a minor league player? They are surprisingly low.
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21207 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 2:02 pm to
It won't change much really. The hierarchy especially in football was established years ago. This changes nothing.
Posted by JayAg
Member since Jun 2021
10282 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 2:05 pm to
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the athletes aren't going to be allowed to put the school's logo or anything on merchandise. I'm not sure people would be that interested in buying something with just a person's initial log


I saw the interview with some Big 10 basketball player launching a clothing line, aka slapping his initials on a hoody and selling them for $50, outside his school, who is buying?
Posted by Jebadeb
Member since Oct 2017
4755 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 2:06 pm to
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Only problem is most college baseball players may not be that recognizable to the casual fan


This could be said about any sport. Nothing about baseball makes players less recognizable. Hell, in football players are wearing helmets and you can barely see their faces.

Baseball players may not be getting national deals but they can still do well from endorsements from local companies advertising in local markets.

Also, they could just say something like: "Hi, I'm [team] [position] name" in the ad.
Posted by gohogs141
Fayetteville
Member since Jun 2011
7512 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 2:08 pm to
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Also, they could just say something like: "Hi, I'm [team] [position] name" in the ad.


Don't think they can do this either outside of their name from what I was reading about it. University can't be mentioned at all.
Posted by Jebadeb
Member since Oct 2017
4755 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 2:12 pm to
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Don't think they can do this either outside of their name from what I was reading about it. University can't be mentioned at all.


Ah, I wasn't aware of that. Interesting. I wonder how far that goes. Like, are they prohibited from wearing school apparel?
Posted by HotRock
Starkville,MS
Member since Aug 2018
510 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 2:14 pm to
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Also, they could just say something like: "Hi, I'm [team] [position] name" in the ad.


Don't think they can do this either outside of their name from what I was reading about it. University can't be mentioned at all.


This is probably true but even then they can hold a baseball or something and people will recognize their name. I mean hell they were chanting Rowdy half the year, having a hook like a catchy nickname will help.
Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
5333 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 2:18 pm to
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But the athletes aren't going to be allowed to put the school's logo or anything on merchandise. I'm not sure people would be that interested in buying something with just a person's initial logo on it even if he is associated with the school. The branding of the school is what makes everyone fans.

That's up to each school. The LSU/Louisiana bill allows athletes to use the schools branding. South Carolina does not.

It'd be dumb, from a recruiting and overall monetary standpoint, to not let them use the school branding.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11834 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 2:21 pm to
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Is it now possible for players to make more in college than the minors?


Never thought about for baseball

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NIL could be HUGE for this sport


I agree
Posted by HogX
Madison, WI
Member since Dec 2012
5042 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 2:28 pm to
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Have you seen the avg salary for a minor league player? They are surprisingly low.
According to the Googles, the average player salary for a minor league player was $6,000 in Single-A, $9,350 in Double-A and $15,000 in Triple-A in 2018.

I knew it was low, but damn.
Posted by Hailstate15
ForeverGator's mom's
Member since Nov 2018
21466 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 2:28 pm to
Tanner Allen woulda made 10x that on Jersey/shite sales this season.
Posted by Mulkey Man
Member since Apr 2021
19403 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 2:29 pm to
Yeah, that's why it is so important for guys to leave after their third year when they still have enough leverage to get a signing bonus.
Posted by HogX
Madison, WI
Member since Dec 2012
5042 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 2:31 pm to
Absolutely. After seeing that, I really do think this could be a shot in the arm for college baseball.

Toil around on a bus with a bunch of dudes for years making $10-15K before you hit the majors or come to college for a few years, slay tang, make solid money off endorsements, and get a degree?

I know what I'm picking.

Obviously, the scenario doesn't exactly play out like that for high level draftees but those guys are the exception, not the rule.
This post was edited on 7/1/21 at 2:33 pm
Posted by Hailstate15
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Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 7/1/21 at 2:41 pm to
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Obviously, the scenario doesn't exactly play out like that for high level draftees but those guys are the exception, not the rule.

It easily could play out for them. Especially if they come to campus and dominate. Especially with fanbases like LSU, State, and Arkansas
Posted by GoldenSombrero
Member since Sep 2010
2651 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 2:45 pm to
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The guys signing for millions or hundreds of thousands will still go. But the guys on the cusp could live a much more comfortable lifestyle in college than as a poor minor leaguer.



Agreed but those guys aren't going to be raking in NIL sponsorships either. So they'll be in the same boat.

Posted by HogX
Madison, WI
Member since Dec 2012
5042 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 2:50 pm to
It definitely could, but it's a bit more of a gamble. Even with the change in rules, if you're drafted in the first and are offered a $2.5+ million signing bonus, that'll still be tough to leave on the table. I would imagine that this makes the chances of them leaving that $$$ on the table a much bigger possibility, though.
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50321 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 2:53 pm to
Unless they perform. You don't think Kopps would have racked in some dough this year?
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84839 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 2:58 pm to
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I’m worried it might reduce parity though by causing even more top players that usually wouldn’t stay/go to college at all to go, but only to like the top 10 or 15 schools


Yes but at least we’re in that group
Posted by GoldenSombrero
Member since Sep 2010
2651 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 3:01 pm to
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Unless they perform. You don't think Kopps would have racked in some dough this year?


Sure, but he was already here. And he won't be coming back just because of the NIL.

My point is, it won't impact people deciding to sign or not. At least not the legit impact players. We've had, like many programs, guys get drafted in low rounds as Jr and decide to sign. But most of the time those guys are encouraged to sign as we have other talent coming in already. So even if they wanted to stay, we wouldn't have a spot for them.

In the very rare case you might have someone that is just a great CBB player, but not a prospect for MLB, maybe a booster gives him $10K to come back, but I doubt it.

Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
5333 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 4:10 pm to
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Sure, but he was already here. And he won't be coming back just because of the NIL.


idk, he just partnered with Barstool

"welcome Kevin Kopps"
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