PP7 for heisman

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Johnny Jones never had a losing season until his final year at LSU (his 5th year). In his first 4 seasons Jones’s WORST SEC record was 9-9. That’s McMahon’s best record.

So yes, McMahon is infinitely worse than the guy before Wade

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See my post above.

Jones was playing in a minor league conference to what the SEC is now. There was not a season that ended with more than two conference teams ranked during his tenure. There was 5 in 23/24 and 8 in 24/25. Amount of SEC teams in the NCAA tournament during each tenure.

Jones:

2013: 3 teams
2014: 3 teams
2015: 5 teams
2016: 3 teams

McMahon

22/23: 6 teams
23/24: 9 teams
24/25: 11 teams

Jones did less with more than anyone in school history (outside of Dale Brown if you want to talk about championships).

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Oh yea while Mickey was fricking around with Jameis Winsto

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Had us at the top of the division while we had a bunch of vets on their final contracts trying to do something at the end of a window.

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Derek Carr

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See above. He was a fraud who didn't work out.

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patriots drafted multiple QBs in the 1st round.

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Who? They were awful for multiple years because of their poor first round quarterback drafting. They traded Mac for peanuts

They drafted Tom Brady in the 6th round 30 years ago.

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Tell that to Robert Kraft. Fastest turnaround in sports history

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How often do teams get 10+ year vets of their program who were excellent head coaches to fall into their lap because of another organization's stupidity? Because that's what the Patriots did.

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. Thanks to the nature of the nfl even blind squirrel Mickey was gifted a nut in KM. I’m sure he’ll find a way to screw it up.

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Why does everyone forget everything Mickey did up until like 3 years ago? And then completely ignore this year's class?

What are you even talking about?

Feel like a lot of it depends on Serna's development behind the plate as well.

Maybe they throw Serna at first next year to get him in the lineup if Arrambide keeps improving. In that case, maybe they bring him in after one year at Eunice.

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I think he’s a guy that slides in after Arrambide goes pro and we just have Serna and Belding left.

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You think he waits 2 years?

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So? There’s been tons of people with all these and not live up to the hype. Just bc a bunch of clowns in the media think you’re great doesn’t mean you are.

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I'm not just talking about media driven awards. I'm also talking about PFF numbers, draft position, etc.

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He played terrible tonight and got his shite pushed in. You sunshine pumpers aren’t going to spontaneously combust or something for admitting that. You’ll be ok I promise.

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Or I can acknowledge that he is 2 months off of a grade 3 MCL sprain and that likely limited him, especially considering how bad he's been since the injury. Pretty simple.

Mainly because he didn't have great counting stats at LSU. He was billed as an elite pass rusher who really made more of a difference in the run game than the passing game. He was always more of a projection guy rather than a production guy when he left LSU (part of that was because he missed his sophomore year). I honestly think if he would have played his sophomore year, he would have had MUCH better sack numbers his junior year. He bulked up a ton and lost a little speed after the ACL.

I mean, he was (correctly) considered a bust up until this year. Didn't sign a second contract in JAX, washed out in one year in LV. He had 10 sacks and 1 FF in the 5 seasons prior to this year. He had 9 sacks and 2 FF this year alone.

I'm super pumped for him, but he was relatively easy to forget about in the grand scheme of things.

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He performed the same way in college. Big bully against lesser talent, but pushed back often when against equal or better talent.

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Dumb and wrong.

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The better OL of the two was always Emery Jones Jr.

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At no point in either of their careers was Emory Jones better than Will Campbell lmao.

Loved Jones. He's not Campbell.

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Let's get him an above average WR and see if that O Line grows up a bit before we quit on a year 2 QB. Darnold just won after being much worse than Year 2 Maye for 6 years of his career.

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OL was rough but he had two good running backs, a good TE, two good WR, and a host of other decent WR.

Diggs/Boutte/Hollins/Douglas/Henry/Stevenson/Henderson is one of the better skill groups in the league.

He's not even the worst LSU Athletic Director since 2018 lol.

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CBK was known for developing Oline and TE.. Nuss was hurt ok.. But how else do you explain how bad the oline and TE Play other than not being locked in.

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I'm no Kelly defender, but he presided over the best TE play this century lol.

OL was awful, but Taylor/Green are as good as we've ever had.

Gotcha.