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re: Coaches with most wins and no national titles....

Posted on 7/28/26 at 6:49 pm to
Posted by DamnStrong
NOLA Til I Die!
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 7/28/26 at 6:49 pm to
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8. Brian Kelly 195

Wrong. Brian Kelly won 297 games as a college head coach, & won back to back National Championships with Grand Valley State in 2002 & 2003.
Posted by Gator Fever
Member since Sep 2021
5764 posts
Posted on 7/28/26 at 8:03 pm to
Crazy Bo Schembechler never won one in all those years of coaching there.
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 7/28/26 at 8:16 pm to
Thought Mister Air Raid would be on here
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
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Posted on 7/28/26 at 10:13 pm to
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Brian Kelly has two national championships.


FBS only here.

He also has well over 200 wins if we're counting everything.
Posted by tattoo
Fantasy Island
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Posted on 7/29/26 at 4:32 am to
What about Bobby Dodd, Johnny Vaught and Pat Dye? Do they not have 189 wins?
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 7/29/26 at 5:11 am to
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What about Bobby Dodd, Johnny Vaught and Pat Dye? Do they not have 189 wins?


No.If they did, they'd be on this list. That's how this works.

Vaught's national title in 1960 is recognized by the compiler of this list.

Mark Richt has more wins than Dodd or Dye.

This post was edited on 7/29/26 at 5:17 am
Posted by New Money
Athens, GA
Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 7/29/26 at 3:59 pm to
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He also has well over 200 wins if we're counting everything.


I count them as one of them was at the expense of my beloved Valdosta State Blazers.
Posted by GreenieTiger
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2014
954 posts
Posted on 7/29/26 at 4:06 pm to
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Mark Richt has more wins than Dodd or Dye.
I would have guessed Richt would have made this list.

Wonder if Richt Barnes makes the list for basketball.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
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Posted on 7/29/26 at 5:45 pm to
Schembechler had a few chances but lost as heavy Rose Bowl favorites. In fact Bo was 2-8 in The Rose Bowl.
Posted by escatawpabuckeye
Member since Jan 2013
1059 posts
Posted on 7/29/26 at 5:48 pm to
Freakin John cooper.

What a legacy….
Posted by Jorts R Us
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Posted on 7/29/26 at 7:49 pm to
Iowa with two in the top 5
Posted by Pat Dye 60 minutes
Member since Jun 2026
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Posted on 7/29/26 at 8:57 pm to
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2000 Michael Vick team


1999 was the Michael Vick team that was so good. They lost to Florida State in the Natty that year. That Florida State team was absolutely loaded and Va. Tech gave them a decent game for awhile. FSU had Chris Weinke's old arse at QB and he won the Heisman. Peter Warrick was on that team also. Bobby Bowden had a ton of great players in his FSU tenure and should've won more than 2 Natty's, imo.

From 1987 until 2000 (14 years) Florida State finished ranked inside the AP Top 5 every year. That record will probably never be broken. During that streak, FSU was 152-19. Like I said, Bowden should've had more Natty's but he would always trip up against Miami or Florida every year it seemed.
Posted by GoGators1995
Member since Jan 2023
8281 posts
Posted on 7/29/26 at 9:01 pm to
Ironically Bowden got his first after 1 loss FSU got to play Nebraska over an undefeated major conference champion.
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 7/29/26 at 9:33 pm to
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Ironically Bowden got his first after 1 loss FSU got to play Nebraska over an undefeated major conference champion.


Shouldn't have cheated.
Posted by GoGators1995
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 7/29/26 at 9:42 pm to
Huh? West Virginia cheated?
Posted by EV
Member since Aug 2024
671 posts
Posted on 7/30/26 at 2:59 pm to
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From 1987 until 2000 (14 years) Florida State finished ranked inside the AP Top 5 every year. That record will probably never be broken. During that streak, FSU was 152-19. Like I said, Bowden should've had more Natty's but he would always trip up against Miami or Florida every year it seemed


with a playoff, FSU would have a few more

There were at least 3 seasons (1987, 1992, 1997) where FSU lost 1 game by 3 points or less, and that was it...we were sealed out of the National Championship. Very small margin of error. Not one mulligan game against Miami

Posted by GoGators1995
Member since Jan 2023
8281 posts
Posted on 7/30/26 at 3:01 pm to
Who knows but Bowden did get to play in 5 title games and only won 2 of them.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
74262 posts
Posted on 7/30/26 at 3:08 pm to
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Ironically Bowden got his first after 1 loss FSU got to play Nebraska over an undefeated major conference champion.

West Virginia lost their bowl game that year to #8 Florida. The team who got kinda screwed was Notre Dame. They beat FSU the second to last week of the regular season but tripped up against Boston College the next weekend. They still beat #7 A&M in Cotton Bowl and finished #2 behind FSU who they beat H2H

FSU played a much more difficult schedule than WVU. FSU played the #2, #3, #5, #15, and #23 teams in the final AP Poll. They went 4-1 against those teams. WVU played the #5, #15, and #24 ranked teams in the final poll. FSU's only loss was to #2 Notre Dame on the road by 7. WVU's only loss was to #5 Florida, who Florida St beat on the road by 2 touchdowns.
This post was edited on 7/30/26 at 3:16 pm
Posted by GoGators1995
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 7/30/26 at 3:11 pm to
Just like FSU lost their bowl game 63-3 in 2023.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
74262 posts
Posted on 7/30/26 at 3:16 pm to
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Just like FSU lost their bowl game 63-3 in 2023.

FSU didn't win a national title in 2023 either
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