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re: Chips floating in air, will Ole Miss be the same without CLK and Weiss jr?

Posted on 8/5/26 at 2:05 pm to
Posted by caliegeaux
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Posted on 8/5/26 at 2:05 pm to
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But the last 3 years (especially in the 2024 Kentucky and Florida games) Weis Jr and his playcalling made me want to swan dive into an empty pool.


we need some rain then, my pool is getting low!
Posted by Insurancerebel
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Posted on 8/5/26 at 2:17 pm to
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Crazy how all the lazy southern sports media call him so likable and give him a pass for so much nonsense

He probably should have the most pressure on him next to Beamer this year because he wasn't the head coach OM wanted to replace Coach Kiffin and was basically rushed to the podium Coach O style, his job security is very minimal now


Horrible take...
Posted by Insurancerebel
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Posted on 8/5/26 at 2:20 pm to
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But the last 3 years (especially in the 2024 Kentucky and Florida games) Weis Jr and his playcalling made me want to swan dive into an empty pool.

It blows my fricking mind why Kiffin would give him the reigns, let him suck balls for a quarter or half and then take over later.


You could tell when Kiff wasn't in oxford on game weeks. For whatever reason...
Posted by Pickle_Weasel
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 8/5/26 at 2:22 pm to
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Will Ole Miss drop off losing their most successful HC in history


Johnny Vaught was the most successful HC we've ever had. Kiffin did really well, but he never won a single thing.
Posted by tigerbait1.6
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Posted on 8/5/26 at 2:28 pm to
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On the other side of the ball, the defense should be much improved.


LOL still a Golding lead defence
Posted by Gen Patton
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Posted on 8/5/26 at 2:44 pm to
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Accurate take...


FIFY
Posted by Quicksilver
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Posted on 8/5/26 at 3:02 pm to
Pete brought in the guy that Lane likely would have gone after if Weis had said no. Judge will still be the one that organizes things in the offensive room.

Will we be the same? No. Will we be as productive? Maybe.
This post was edited on 8/5/26 at 3:09 pm
Posted by Insurancerebel
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Posted on 8/5/26 at 3:44 pm to
I'd say the guy with a $40 million roster and making $13 million a year has more pressure on him. With Jeff Lebby following a close second
Posted by tigerbait17
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Posted on 8/5/26 at 4:06 pm to
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With Jeff Lebby following a close second


Lebby took over one of the worst situations in a very long time. I dont see how he has that much pressure on him.
Posted by Quicksilver
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Posted on 8/5/26 at 4:23 pm to
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Lebby took over one of the worst situations in a very long time. I dont see how he has that much pressure on him.


He's won one SEC game in two seasons and lost to a G4 school by multiple scores.

To be clear, I'm not sure it's 100% his fault as State has drug their feet on NIL but he made a bad DC hire, retained the DC after a disastrous first year despite it being obvious he wasn't the answer, and I think only hired Arnett due to pressure from MSU people who knew/liked him. Recruiting is in the shitter for them right now.
This post was edited on 8/5/26 at 4:27 pm
Posted by rebsfan10
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 8/5/26 at 4:23 pm to
I think the offense will stay the same for the most part, but we'll miss a few key checks at the line that Lane calls when he sees something not many people can see. That is where Lane is special. His work ethic isn't near what most other coaches are, so he's not recruiting as hard or watching the game film as much, but he can break down a defense quicker than 99% of the world and call the perfect play.

Optimistically, while I know there are 5 or so plays that Lane would have made the perfect play call to get the first down or a big play, I'm hoping Pete and this staff will avoid some of the dumb and ego calls he would make that would also cost us. Still will probably be a net negative for us on offense losing Lane, but that and the experience coming back are why I'm hopeful that the drop off won't be huge.

Weiss did a hell of a job last year, but if you looked at Ole Miss message boards in 2025, 90% of people were begging for him to leave or be fired. Obviously a lot changed last year but I think he can be replaced without missing too much.
Posted by Quicksilver
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Posted on 8/5/26 at 4:29 pm to
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Weiss did a hell of a job last year, but if you looked at Ole Miss message boards in 2025, 90% of people were begging for him to leave or be fired. Obviously a lot changed last year but I think he can be replaced without missing too much.


Joe Judge taking over the organization of the offense from a staff/logistics standpoint made Charlie's job much easier. Charlie was able to solely focus on gameplan design and playcalling.

Trinidad being incredible didn't hurt either.
Posted by Gen Patton
Member since Dec 2009
2442 posts
Posted on 8/5/26 at 4:30 pm to
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With Jeff Lebby following a close second


Don't forget Beamer, he's coaching for his job this season

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making $13 million a year has more pressure on him


your argument just collapsed on itself with that statement, his job's secure

meanwhile your guy's job is anything but
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