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Chips are down: Is the free market bad for CFB?

Posted on 8/25/26 at 7:59 am
Posted by Marcelo Lavanda
Manaus, Amazonas
Member since Oct 2024
519 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 7:59 am
Please don't call it the wild west anymore. We're several years into it and the product is an Adam Smith wet dream.

Does CFB need socialism to reign it in?
Posted by Tarpon08
Cut Off, LA
Member since Dec 2014
9003 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 8:03 am to
Yes. If you're going to have unrestricted free agency every single year their needs to be a cap and collective bargaining.

Rolling out NIL and Transfer Portal at the same fricking time with no real plan was the death of college sports as we knew them.
Posted by Uga Alum
Member since Jul 2022
6925 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 8:09 am to
I think I’m done with it. Good riddance.
Posted by Buster83
Somewhere in Texas usually
Member since Aug 2021
5962 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 8:14 am to
If you can do it in CFB, why not basketball and baseball as well?

Posted by dickkellog
little rock
Member since Dec 2024
3401 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 8:16 am to
the NFL wouldn't survive if it had rookie free agency. that's what we have in college football. i like the proposed one mulligan after that if you transfer you lose a year of eligibility.
Posted by bamabaseballsec
Member since Dec 2020
4315 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 8:17 am to
Yes currently but it’ll most likely correct itself in time, the question is will the product you used to love be obsolete by then? I feel like cfb viewership is in a transfer portal scenario, will the new fans coming on board for the new era of cfb be equal to or greater in number than the fans that are inevitably going to walk away?
Posted by Marcelo Lavanda
Manaus, Amazonas
Member since Oct 2024
519 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 8:51 am to
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it’ll most likely correct itself in time, the question is will the product you used to love be obsolete by then?


My cursory observation with the bills trying to get passed in Congress to save college athletics are filled with holes. And of course in typical political fashion things are tacked on leading to the bill being dead on arrival.

It would move along better if an executive action was signed for this but it the proposed action must be bulletproof
Posted by NaturalStateReb
Arkansas
Member since Jun 2012
1671 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 8:51 am to
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Does CFB need socialism to reign it in?


What it needs is collective bargaining, which is a non-socialist, legal way to regulate both a labor market and labor/management relationships. The management end (universities and conferences) want to say this is not feasible because they think they can just have the government come in and nuke this market.

What we need is a market regulated by mutual bargaining, not congressional fiat.
Posted by Marcelo Lavanda
Manaus, Amazonas
Member since Oct 2024
519 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 10:10 am to
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What we need is a market regulated by mutual bargaining


Not detracting from your thought, because I agree - but how will it even be possible to collectively bargain FBS, FCS and downstream?

Collectively bargained by conference? I imagine that would still not have a unified bargaining agreement and leaves fracturing across the broader CFB landscape.
Posted by BevoBucks
H-town
Member since Dec 2022
6914 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 10:13 am to
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Not detracting from your thought, because I agree - but how will it even be possible to collectively bargain FBS, FCS and downstream?
You could see the lower levels maintain "amateur" legal status. Can't argue that for SEC/B1G. Thus the need for them to split away. So their rules are consistent with their reality.
Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
21346 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 10:16 am to
The School Presidents and Athletic directors must recognize the NCAA as a governing body with absolute authority and with whatever the legal term is for immunity. Anti trust or whatever. They need a “commissioner”.

They can do this. They can do it right now. But they are scared over money. TV deals and contracts. They don’t care anything about the competition as long as we are watching and dumping money into the programs.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
14250 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 10:23 am to
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Please don't call it the wild west anymore. We're several years into it and the product is an Adam Smith wet dream.

Does CFB need socialism to reign it in?


Stop signs, while certainly state financed and sanctioned, were never, to my knowledge, mentioned by Marx nor Keynes. They are certainly a regulation which hinders the free market but it is a stretch for all but the dimmest among us to suggest they are in any manner an element of socialism or a slippery slope to soviet style communism. So the answer is yes, CFB would benefit from a well applied, sensibly thought out dose of regulation by the federal government. Highly doubtful the federal government does anything substantial and if it does happen it will most likely be neither well applied or sensibly thought out but will, like almost all federal regulation, be sold to the highest bidder in yet another in an endless list of crony capitalistic mistakes which will prove to be fantastically in achieving the goals of the highest bidder and cursed by everyone else....
Posted by Marcelo Lavanda
Manaus, Amazonas
Member since Oct 2024
519 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 10:24 am to
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The School Presidents and Athletic directors must recognize the NCAA as a governing body with absolute authority and with whatever the legal term is for immunity. Anti trust or whatever. They need a “commissioner”.


I don't know what happened that flipped the idea of "NCAA overreach" handing out penalties to now them being absolutely toothless overnight
Posted by Marcelo Lavanda
Manaus, Amazonas
Member since Oct 2024
519 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 10:25 am to
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Stop signs


If only we all could perform courtesy stops!
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
39507 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 10:28 am to
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I think I’m done with it. Good riddance.
So you will stick to academics and academics alone? Sounds good!
Posted by msudawg1200
Central Mississippi
Member since Jun 2014
10988 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 10:30 am to
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The School Presidents and Athletic directors must recognize the NCAA as a governing body with absolute authority and with whatever the legal term is for immunity. Anti trust or whatever. They need a “commissioner”.

They can do this. They can do it right now. But they are scared over money. TV deals and contracts. They don’t care anything about the competition as long as we are watching and dumping money into the programs.

This is the biggest issue. The schools want te NCAA to regulate until they don't. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Either let the NCAA do the job it was created to do ar be done with it.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
14250 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 10:31 am to
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I think I’m done with it. Good riddance.


A lot of this probably has to do with getting older and just losing interest in former passions anyway but I spent less time on CFB last season than I have spent since my 8th or 9th year and I will probably spend even less time this year. I will watch UGA games but I probably won't watch Friday nigh ACC action between Stanford and NC State or some other such nonsense. There is far more interesting things to do on a fall Saturday than watch a bunch of 20 year old millionaires play a meaningless game and be inundated with commercial after commercial after commercial while doing so. The game is almost untenable on TV and TV makes it completely untenable in person. I fully understand that viewership is up and growing but I sincerely think most of that is due to TVs being tuned in and viewers simply watching while doing other things...I would bet the VAST majority of viewers couldn't tell you what the down and distance was at most points in the game....and I know they won't be able to when there are 10 minutes of commercials between 2 and third down....watching from home or the stands, either way, the breaks in the action has made the game less watchable than baseball....
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
17411 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 10:34 am to
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Please don't call it the wild west anymore. We're several years into it and the product is an Adam Smith wet dream.

Does CFB need socialism to reign it in?


At this point, I'll be more than happy to take whatever the NFL is having. And count my blessings.
Posted by paperwasp
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Member since Sep 2014
31091 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 10:36 am to
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I don't know what happened that flipped the idea of "NCAA overreach" handing out penalties to now them being absolutely toothless overnight

Ambulance-chasing lawyers and district courts, like those in Northern California.

Some of their decisions have been described as "egregiously wrong," and "granting sweeping injunctive relief with virtually no evidence, inviting further chaos in college sports."

Once that door was opened, each new lawsuit brings fear that the NCAA and/or member institutions will be sued and awarded billions of dollars, so they simply kowtow to every challenge that comes along rather than risk exposure to liability.
Posted by NaturalStateReb
Arkansas
Member since Jun 2012
1671 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 1:21 pm to
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Not detracting from your thought, because I agree - but how will it even be possible to collectively bargain FBS, FCS and downstream?



I think there are two way to handle. You could have a single association (bargaining unit) that bargains for different rules at each level. The other way to do it is to have a bargaining unit for each individual level. The second way makes more sense to me.
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