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re: "Brandon Miller has rights. I believe that Alabama has a duty to protect those rights.”

Posted on 2/27/23 at 8:24 am to
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
28630 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 8:24 am to
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It's truly amazing that you don't think they know the answer to this.


They either don’t know or they are concealing the answer. If the answer is “no, I didn’t read it,” then they almost certainly would be saying so to explain why they feel comfortable in taking no disciplinary action.
Posted by Imber
Member since Sep 2017
12998 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 8:25 am to
There is circumstantial evidence that any DA could use to indict Miller, if he wanted to. Miles texts Miller, "I need my joint a n****r rl jus got fakin". Miller delivers the joint to Miles. Miles hands the joint to Davis. Davis immediately starts shooting. Miller flees the scene. Miller does not report the incident to law enforcement, despite the fact that his car has two bullet holes in it.

Any DA could use that set of facts alone to indict Miller. Any DA in Alabama could use that set of facts alone to convict a black man 99 times out of 100. Why wasn't it done in Miller's case? You can draw your own conclusions.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67517 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 8:26 am to
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"Brandon Miller has rights. I believe that Alabama has a duty to protect those rights.”

Jay Bilas

But not the right to play or against prosecution
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 2/27/23 at 8:27 am to
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Personally, at this point, I think it’s highly relevant. There’s a big difference between thinking you are just picking up your friend and thinking you have been summoned to deliver a gun to a public space where an altercation is happening.


I don’t think so. It’s not illegal or against any rule to own a gun. It’s not illegal or against any rule to transport a gun. It’s still not illegal or against any rule to knowingly transport said gun to its owner who has stated he’s been threatened and is in an altercation.

We’ll go further. It’s not illegal or against any rule to let the person you are threatened by know you are armed. It’s not illegal or against any rule to defend yourself with a gun if the situation calls for it.

What is illegal is handing that gun to someone else to use, and then that person using it to commit a crime.

As Brandon Miller - nor any other rational person could not have known that was about to transpire - Brandon Miller should not be held accountable for those actions.

Did he exercise poor judgement? On multiple levels. Did he break any laws or team rules? None.

Move on.
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
6877 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 8:28 am to
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If the answer is “no, I didn’t read it,” then they almost certainly would be saying so to explain why they feel comfortable in taking no disciplinary action.


They don't owe you or anybody else an explanation. Why can't you understand this? Apparently they are completely comfortable with their decision.
Posted by Cutty Sark
Drunk
Member since Feb 2023
309 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 8:29 am to
That’s a whole lotta words for someone who “doesn’t care what everyone else thinks” lmao
Posted by Murph4HOF
A-T-L-A-N-T-A (that's where I stay)
Member since Sep 2019
11379 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 8:30 am to
Brandon Miller has rights.

The University of Alabama has no legal obligation to protect those rights.
This post was edited on 2/27/23 at 8:31 am
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Tittleman's Crest
Member since Feb 2009
52859 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 8:32 am to
legal obligation=/=duty
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
6877 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 8:32 am to
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Why wasn't it done in Miller's case?


Why did you leave the ADA's statement out of this? it answers your questions without any speculation or having to draw any conclusions.
This post was edited on 2/27/23 at 8:34 am
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54184 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 8:33 am to
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Why did you leave the ADA's statement out of this?
Probably because it is non sensical and 100% untrue.

quote:

it answers you questions without any speculation or having to draw any conclusions.
It does not. It’s an unexplained, conclusory statement. It does not provide the reasoning as to why the DA made its determination that it wouldn’t/couldn’t bring charges.
This post was edited on 2/27/23 at 8:37 am
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 2/27/23 at 8:33 am to
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That’s a whole lotta words for someone who “doesn’t care what everyone else thinks” lmao


Okay, new guy who is definitely not an alter but whose 80 posts are almost all about big bad daddy bammer.

Enjoy.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
24127 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 8:38 am to
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Jay Bilas is an actual lawyer.


So thanks for confirming for us that he doesn't just act like a douche, he's an actual douche...
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
28630 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 8:38 am to
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I don’t think so. It’s not illegal or against any rule to own a gun. It’s not illegal or against any rule to transport a gun. It’s still not illegal or against any rule to knowingly transport said gun to its owner who has stated he’s been threatened and is in an altercation.

We’ll go further. It’s not illegal or against any rule to let the person you are threatened by know you are armed. It’s not illegal or against any rule to defend yourself with a gun if the situation calls for it.

What is illegal is handing that gun to someone else to use, and then that person using it to commit a crime.

As Brandon Miller - nor any other rational person could not have known that was about to transpire - Brandon Miller should not be held accountable for those actions.

Did he exercise poor judgement? On multiple levels. Did he break any laws or team rules? None.

Move on.


I gave you an upvote because this is a well-worded, somewhat reasonable argument in Alabama’s defense.

But I can’t co-sign it. While what you said is a strong argument against criminal liability, it is my opinion (and probably most other’s) that if Miller read the text before delivering the gun then he acted in a reckless disregard for the safety of others which contributed to the death of an innocent woman. Why was it reckless? Because he was delivering a gun to a public space in the middle of the night to a friend who had been out drinking and was essentially saying shite was about to go down. It is reasonably foreseeable people could be unnecessarily seriously hurt or killed if he complied with the request to deliver the gun.

But again my issue is more with the fact the University doesn’t even want to address the issue. They are refusing to ask for self-serving reasons or are concealing it. If you know he read the text and are still comfortable with playing him then say so. Otherwise it looks and smells like a cover up.
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
30949 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 8:39 am to
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when questioned


Harry is an obese drunken bum with male pattern baldness that cries all day on the internet
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American southerner
Member since Nov 2013
35959 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 8:40 am to
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Did he break any laws or team rules? None.




There we have it. At Alabama, delivering a murder weapon is not against team rules.

Probably would be if you're a walkon or a backup punter though.

Tennis player? Definitely against team rules in that case.
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
30949 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 8:42 am to
Why do you hate the 2nd Amendment?


Suck on these

Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American southerner
Member since Nov 2013
35959 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 8:42 am to
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They don't owe you or anybody else an explanation. Why can't you understand this? Apparently they are completely comfortable with their decision.



Print media all the way in Europe even are on this, and they all don't see it your way.

SEC and NCAA, you can hear a pin drop.
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
30949 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 8:44 am to
Cry more pussy.

You lost

Again

frick you
Posted by TrussvilleTide
The Endless Void
Member since Sep 2021
4069 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 8:44 am to
So they should kick him off the team because the public thinks they should? As we all know, "the public" is notorious for being so correct so often

I don't even think "the public" cares 10% as much about this as some fans of other teams on this board and a few lib sportswriters do. So basically you're wanting him removed because a loud stupid minority want him removed.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American southerner
Member since Nov 2013
35959 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 8:45 am to
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Why did you leave the ADA's statement out of this?
Probably because it is non sensical and 100% untrue.

quote:
it answers you questions without any speculation or having to draw any conclusions.
It does not. It’s an unexplained, conclusory statement. It does not provide the reasoning as to why the DA made its determination that it wouldn’t/couldn’t bring charges.





spot on


the coverup will be very newsworthy, probably sooner than later
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