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re: "Brandon Miller has rights. I believe that Alabama has a duty to protect those rights.”

Posted on 2/26/23 at 8:41 pm to
Posted by Contra
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 2/26/23 at 8:41 pm to
Everything was caught on camera. His dash cam and street cams. He told authorities they can extract whatever they need from his phone.

Brandon Miller fully cooperated with authorities because he has nothing to hide. And a lot of rant can't stand it since he is a great player who plays for Alabama and he just carried Alabama to an SEC Championship.
Posted by TidenUP
Dauphin Island
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 2/26/23 at 8:42 pm to
Crab theory.
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 2/26/23 at 8:46 pm to
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because he has nothing to hide


Apparently he does, because his lawyer gave us “his” story but didn’t want to comment on whether Miller read the text prior to delivering the gun. The most reasonable conclusion is that omission is an admission that he did read the text, but the University of Alabama either doesn’t want to know the answer or they know and are concealing it, effectively covering it up.


Posted by TidenUP
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Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 2/26/23 at 9:05 pm to
quote:

The most reasonable conclusion is that omission is an admission that he did read the text, but the University of Alabama either doesn’t want to know the answer or they know and are concealing it, effectively covering it up.


Or, the University is letting law enforcement handle the possible ins-and-outs of this situation. The University, if they butt in, become a possible target for civil suits. Law enforcement has stated they can't charge him from the evidence they have, including his testimony.

Keep slinging shite at the wall tho. Maybe it will stick.
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
30949 posts
Posted on 2/26/23 at 9:07 pm to
frick you

You lost

again
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
28630 posts
Posted on 2/26/23 at 9:11 pm to
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Or, the University is letting law enforcement handle the possible ins-and-outs of this situation.


Miller is not a suspect though. He’s not being charged. As it concerns Miller, it’s not a criminal matter. So what’s stopping the University from asking Miller to answer the question?

As it concerns the police/DA, what impact at all would it have in their case against those charged to reveal Miller’s answer to the question (assuming they even asked the question)?

We know a hell of a lot what happened that night, but curiously no one wants to reveal whether Miller read the text before delivering the gun.

Either the University knows the answer and is concealing it, or they don’t want to ask for self-serving reasons, and either way it’s effectively a cover up.
This post was edited on 2/26/23 at 9:12 pm
Posted by TidenUP
Dauphin Island
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 2/26/23 at 9:18 pm to
Was he delivering a gun or picking up his teammate/friend? You have decided he was delivering a gun. Law enforcement has decided otherwise.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 2/26/23 at 9:20 pm to
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Was he delivering a gun or picking up his teammate/friend?
Well, which did he actually do?
Posted by TidenUP
Dauphin Island
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 2/26/23 at 9:25 pm to
He started out to pick up his teammate. shite went sideways after that. I wasn't there. Neither were all these posters trying to put Miller on trial.
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
28630 posts
Posted on 2/26/23 at 9:26 pm to
quote:

Was he delivering a gun or picking up his teammate/friend?


I’ve consistently said it depends on when he read the text message. If he read it before delivering the gun, then he was doing both.

I’ve also said that the total failure of anyone to answer this question means the most reasonable conclusion is he either read it before or plead the 5th when asked.

quote:

Law enforcement has decided otherwise.


Prosecution would have to prove beyond reasonable doubt that Miller knew of others’ intent to use the gun to commit crime. Even if they have evidence he read the text before delivering the gun, that’s a high burden of proof to overcome.

That doesn’t mean the University and the public can’t come to a reasonable conclusion that Miller acted with reckless disregard for the safety of others which contributed to the death of an innocent woman.
This post was edited on 2/26/23 at 9:30 pm
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
28630 posts
Posted on 2/26/23 at 9:28 pm to
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Neither were all these posters trying to put Miller on trial.


I’m not putting Miller on trial. I’m putting Greg Byrne and the U of A on trial for either not asking the question or having the answer and choosing to conceal it, either way effectively covering it up. I would put Oats on trial for this too but he has the IQ of a dog so it’s hard to pass judgment there.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
6008 posts
Posted on 2/26/23 at 9:29 pm to
quote:

Prosecution would have to prove beyond reasonable doubt that Miller knew of others’ intent to use the gun to commit crime. Even if they have evidence he read the text before delivering the gun, that’s a high burden of proof to overcome.

That doesn’t mean the University and the public can’t come to a reasonable conclusion that Miller acted with reckless disregard for the safety of others which contributed to the death of an innocent woman.


Seems like they determined the reasonable conclusion was to not take academic or athletic related action against him.

You seem to think different. Guess you need to become the University of Alabama so you can do something about it.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54184 posts
Posted on 2/26/23 at 9:30 pm to
quote:

He started out to pick up his teammate
And he arrived and they got in his car. Why didn’t he drive away?
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 2/26/23 at 9:30 pm to
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Alabama can’t ask him “Did you read that text message before delivering the gun?” No, that would be too insensitive to this young man’s “rights.”


Bama can ask him but no one tied to a murder investigation especially in the role he may or may not have played should answer that.

You would be an idiot to talk to anyone other than your lawyer about that night.

Bama has options in handling this and none of them should be throwing questions at him concerning that night. He is at the very least a witness and an accessory at the very worst.
Posted by TidenUP
Dauphin Island
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 2/26/23 at 9:31 pm to
You are STILL trying to read intent on Miller's part. If that existed, he would be facing charges. He doesn't. The actual participants in this situation are facing capitol murder charges. And IMO, light their asses up if convicted.
Posted by Freight Joker
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 2/26/23 at 9:32 pm to
quote:

Jon Ham


Be honest, how much sleep have you lost from this fiasco?
Posted by TidenUP
Dauphin Island
Member since Apr 2011
14450 posts
Posted on 2/26/23 at 9:33 pm to
quote:

And he arrived and they got in his car. Why didn’t he drive away?


He was blocked in by the Jeep.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54184 posts
Posted on 2/26/23 at 9:35 pm to
quote:

He was blocked in by the Jeep.
How did he drive away when the shooting started like his lawyer said?
Posted by TidenUP
Dauphin Island
Member since Apr 2011
14450 posts
Posted on 2/26/23 at 9:38 pm to
He didn't, immediately. The occupants of the Jeep parked behind him once he parked, waiting on Miles.
Posted by Tigahtildeath
Member since Aug 2017
559 posts
Posted on 2/26/23 at 9:40 pm to
Except the law enforcement says he’s not an accessory.
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