re: Big 10 to pursue oklahoma and texas

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OU is looking to leave no doubt. I see OU to SEC and Texas to Big 10 / PAC 12

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Deloss Dodds and the rest of those arrogant fricks tried to orchestrate a move to the PAC for OU, A&M, and Texas Tech. A&M blew it up and told them and Dodds to frick off. At the end of the day, I don't think OU would have agreed to it anyway.

It was after that crap that Loftin put a call into the SEC and the rest is history. Texass tried to play puppeteer and got their arse smoked.

Don't think Texass really wants anything to do with the SEC at all. They would prefer to have an 11-12 game schedule with 7-9 games where they have overwhelming talent advantage. They had this in the SWC and the B12 until Baylor and Tech got strong for awhile, but the SEC is not like that.

Historically Texass doesn't do very well when matched up against teams that have similar... not necessarily better... athletes. They typically need a heavier athletic advantage.

A&M has been closest in terms of talent thus 50/50 in wins losses with them for the last 40 to 50 years despite Texass spending a small fortune over what A&M spent on athletics. OU has as good and sometimes slightly better athletes and this is why they have won 8 B12 titles and Texass has only 3.

Historically Texass has done a lot less with a lot more so the SEC is not a good fit for them at all.

I’ll say it again. OU has NO political ties to Oklahoma state and it has NEVER been said that they had to stay together. OU accepts no state money they can do what they want and always have. That being said OU and Texas will never split up.

Pipe dream. No one is leaving the BIG12.

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What are the declining markets in the Big Ten?

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Outside of Ann Arbor and Columbus they are not seeding the next generation of football fans. Gophers built a new stadium but it was smaller because the Gophers have not been relevant for several generations. Same with other B1G schools and if you go multiple generations without contenders your next generation of fans die off.

B1G schools by MNC's

1800's to 1945 = 22 MNC's split between SIX different schools
(8) Michigan = 1901, 1902, 1903, 1904, 1918, 1923, 1932, and 1933
(6) Minnesota = 1904, 1934, 1935, 1936, 1940, and 1941
(4) Illinois = 1914, 1919, 1923, and 1927
(2) Chicago = 1905 and 1913
(1) Ohio State = 1942
(1) Iowa = 1921

While some of these fans are still alive they are dwindling fast




1946 to 1979 = 18 MNC's split between SIX different schools
(6) Michigan State = 1951, 1952, 1955, 1957, 1965, and 1966
(5) Ohio State = 1954, 1957, 1961, 1968, and 1970
(3) Iowa = 1956, 1958, and 1960
(2) Michigan = 1947 and 1948
(1) Minnesota = 1960
(1) Illinois = 1951

While more of these fans are still alive they are mostly OVER sixty years old




1980 to 2018 = 3 MNC's split between TWO different schools
(2) Ohio State = 2002 and 2014
(1) Michigan = 1997 (pre BCS and CFP)

While these are the under 50 crowd, notice it is just 2 schools and one has yet to make a BCS or CFP championship claim




Just to be fair, here are the schools added since the 90's realignment
(5) Nebraska = 1970, 1971, 1994, 1995, and 1997
(2) Penn State = 1982 & 1986
(1) Maryland = 1953
(1) Rutgers = 1869




Fans may be stable for Michigan and Ohio State for the next generation but that leaves 12 of 14 schools with no real success in ages. You still have older folks at Penn State and Nebraska to see them through the next decade or so but if they fail to reach the top, they will wither on the vine.

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Mississippi really a better market than Minnesota

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So you cherry pick the smallest state in the group?

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Im guessing Big Ten is as powerful as they come.

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For the older set, I am guessing not the same for the younger set.

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Texas and it would be the number one by far.

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Not sure I agree any more. Texas was a big fish in a small pond for most of its history. The SWC was Utx + lots of TX schools + Arkansas. The B12 merger grew the pond but they still were the biggest fish AND the B12 had a monopoly over the state of Texas. The biggest issue is since TAMU went SEC, the state of Texas is no longer a monopoly and the SEC will always have a share of it. This is the part most seem to forget in the discussion. Folks in TX will watch texas play baylor but will the same number tune in to watch texas play the Gophers?

Perhaps the biggest attraction in football is how long you have played somebody more than who you play now.

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Defcon 5 would be if ND and Texas went to Big Ten.

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Never happen, at least not for the average fan of austin and the majority of fans for Notre Dame. The Irish are a national team that happens to be located in the midwest, not the other way around. If they were in the B1G they would just become another Indiana school along with IU and PU. They would also be the 2nd private school in a conference filled with big state schools.

Northwestern has been there since the beginning and they have no power. Why would the Irish want less than that now?

Would Texas join the SEC if they could keep their LHN and NOT get the secnet sharing $ ? Add them and West Virginia, go to a 9 game conference schedule with a 16-team league. Let OU/OSU go to the b1G.

boom. Arkansas vs Texas and Texas v Texas A&M rivalries reborn. And OU/Texas could still play their red river game (although im sure UT would puss out of that).

Added bonus- Poop Swazi vs Couch Burner rivalry born. Those two would hate each other from the word go.

Texas will never join the SEC because too many schools would be outright against it

If I were the SEC, I go after Colorado and VT.

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I’ll say it again. OU has NO political ties to Oklahoma state

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Are you new to Oklahoma sports? Suggest you read up just a bit. Been thoroughly reported in papers in Oklahoma.

You people... it's your own team and you don't know shite about them.

Can you tell us when OU went private and no longer a public...STATE SCHOOL??? Good grief.

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OU is the bitch that follows their every lead

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OU was kind of boxed in for 6 or so years but they did it to themselves. When Nebraska left that was really their time to make a move. They hitched their wagon to Texass and slowly began to regret it. When A&M left that OU had it with Texass and their BS and pushed back.

OU could go Big 10, SEC, etc... and be fine. Texass is the one that is now almost solely dependent on OU for relevance over the last 5 years.