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Posted on 4/20/20 at 8:26 am to Solo Cam
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Off the top of my head
1. Peyton Manning
2. Darren McFadden
3. Tua
4. Leonard Fournette
5. Rex Grossman
Grossman doesn't rank as high on the all time greats list, but certainly ranks up there in having deserved the Heisman for his season.
Grossman
3,896 Yards, 34 TD, 66% completion in 11 games
Crouch
1,510 Yards passing, 7 TD, 10 Int, 56% completion in 12 games
1,115 Yards rushing, 19 TD
Posted on 4/20/20 at 8:32 am to bgator85
Archie Manning
Posted on 4/20/20 at 8:42 am to Solo Cam
Most Deserving list of players to not win the Heisman, compared to the player that won the Heisman:
Larry Fitzgerald over Jason White
Darren Sproles over Jason White
Rex Grossman over Eric Crouch
Peyton Manning over Woodson
McFadden was going against Tebow and Troy Smith
Suh going against Toby Gerhart and Ingram
Larry Fitzgerald over Jason White
Darren Sproles over Jason White
Rex Grossman over Eric Crouch
Peyton Manning over Woodson
McFadden was going against Tebow and Troy Smith
Suh going against Toby Gerhart and Ingram
Posted on 4/20/20 at 8:49 am to Solo Cam
I’d say McFadden over shitty Troy Smith.
Posted on 4/20/20 at 8:49 am to diddlydawg7
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4. Leonard Fournette
Sorry but no
What he did in Les';s offense was special. Switch him and Henry and LF runs away with the Heisman that year. Him not even getting invited to NYC was one of the biggest overreactions to one game I've ever seen. 
Posted on 4/20/20 at 8:57 am to kczoutiger
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Most Deserving list of players to not win the Heisman, compared to the player that won the Heisman:
Marcus Mariotta over Amari Cooper
Marcus had some incredible numbers, but played in an historically BAD conference in regards to pass defense.
Number of top 50 pass defenses faced (prior to Heisman ceremony): 1
Number of pass defenses ranked 90th or worse (prior to Heisman ceremony): 9
He faced a defense ranked 120th or worse 5 times prior to the Heisman ceremony.
Do you think for 5 seconds that someone on the west coast wouldn't have called foul if Burrow had gotten his numbers facing an average pass defense of 94.75 (and hell, that's with Stanford's 8th ranked pass defense in there - without them, it's 102.6)?
Posted on 4/20/20 at 8:59 am to diddlydawg7
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Well if we are comparing stats
The topic is best players, not best seasons.
Get back to us when the Heisman is a career award. Also, Fournette played in a completely pathetic offense with Miles where teams put all of their defenders in the box due to no threat of the pass. Gurley was an awesome back, but statistically never had a year as good as Fournette's sophomore year.
Posted on 4/20/20 at 9:11 am to RoyalAir
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I genuinely believe that if Lattimore hadn't gotten hurt, he'd have won a Heisman.
frick Tennessee.
Posted on 4/20/20 at 9:18 am to Solo Cam
Namath
Posted on 4/20/20 at 9:19 am to LNCHBOX
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Him not even getting invited to NYC was one of the biggest overreactions to one game I've ever seen.
Who should he have gone in the place of?
Christian McCaffery? - more yards, fewer TDs
Deshaun Watson?
Posted on 4/20/20 at 9:26 am to TT9
quote:Eh, McFadden losing the Heisman to Troy fricking Smith was pretty bad. He didn't even pass for 2600 yards. He won it because he was the QB for an undefeated Ohio State team. Period.
There's not a close second.
This post was edited on 4/20/20 at 9:28 am
Posted on 4/20/20 at 9:29 am to skrayper
Melvin Gordon would have won it over Cooper. I have no issue with Mariota winning it, he was great.
Mariota also rushed for almost 800 yrds and 15 TDs. Accounting for 58 TDs.
It's not like he was Troy Smith
Mariota also rushed for almost 800 yrds and 15 TDs. Accounting for 58 TDs.
It's not like he was Troy Smith
This post was edited on 4/20/20 at 9:35 am
Posted on 4/20/20 at 9:33 am to diddlydawg7
Archie Manning!
Posted on 4/20/20 at 9:35 am to Solo Cam
glenn dorsey
nick fairly
show some love for the big uglies
nick fairly
show some love for the big uglies
Posted on 4/20/20 at 11:08 am to GetCocky11
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genuinely believe that if Lattimore hadn't gotten hurt, he'd have won a Heisman.
frick Tennessee.
Calm down, it was an injury.
Posted on 4/20/20 at 11:27 am to themicah85
McFadden was runner up twice.
He deserved it.
He is #1 above all.
He deserved it.
He is #1 above all.
Posted on 4/20/20 at 11:36 am to PurpleandGeauld
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So the best comeback you have is Gurley, who isn't even being discussed by anyone, had a career average of 0.2 ypc and 0.05 TD/G more than LF7, and that is somehow earth shattering? If Gurley hadn't been injured so much, he might have won a Heisman, and no one would argue against that, certainly not me.
Gotta agree with this. Gurley could have got one if not for injuries and Chubb could’ve if not for injuries and sharing carries. Fournette was also a great player, so can make the list as well. Really don’t feel like getting into the Chubb/Gurley vs Fournette thing again. All are in the NFL now and all were great in college.
Edit. Kamara probably could’ve won one in the right offense as well. Dude was criminally underutilized at Tennessee.
This post was edited on 4/20/20 at 11:46 am
Posted on 4/20/20 at 11:37 am to Big EZ Tiger
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Fournette played in a completely pathetic offense with Miles where teams put all of their defenders in the box due to no threat of the pass
To be fair, LSU fans shite on Swift this year for the same thing.
Posted on 4/20/20 at 3:22 pm to skrayper
quote:What’s the average rank of the defenses that Tua played? He got smoked by Clemson and Georgia.
Marcus Mariotta over Amari Cooper
Marcus had some incredible numbers, but played in an historically BAD conference in regards to pass defense.
Number of top 50 pass defenses faced (prior to Heisman ceremony): 1
Number of pass defenses ranked 90th or worse (prior to Heisman ceremony): 9
He faced a defense ranked 120th or worse 5 times prior to the Heisman ceremony.
Do you think for 5 seconds that someone on the west coast wouldn't have called foul if Burrow had gotten his numbers facing an average pass defense of 94.75 (and hell, that's with Stanford's 8th ranked pass defense in there - without them, it's 102.6)?
No chance Cooper should have won the heisman that year.
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