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re: Barton Simmons/247 ranks the SEC QBs in 2020
Posted on 2/26/20 at 12:05 pm to SidewalkTiger
Posted on 2/26/20 at 12:05 pm to SidewalkTiger
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I've asked over and over again how better receivers will help Newman throw less interceptions against better defensive backs than he ever faced in the ACC and your response has continued to be, "muh supporting cast".
Having a better running game and supporting cast will mean Newman doesn’t have to take risks to win that he did last year.
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Posted on 2/26/20 at 12:14 pm to Dawgfanman
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Having a better running game and supporting cast will mean Newman doesn’t have to take risks to win that he did last year.
It will be interesting to what Newman can do behind a really good OL and a running game.
Newman made a lot of plays to Surratt beating ACC DBs. From what I saw of Newman, his improvisation skills is his strength. That means taking risks.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 12:14 pm to Dawgfanman
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Having a better running game
In 2019 as a team, Georgia averaged 185 yards per game rushing to Wake Forest's 175. Georgia scored 21 rushing touchdowns in 14 games to Wake Forest's 18 rushing touchdowns in 13 games.
My entire point is that Newman hasnt shown us that he's better than Mond in no way, shape, or form but for UGA, if he puts up the same numbers Mond did last season, Georgia is likely undefeated or has 1 loss going into the SECCG.
This post was edited on 2/26/20 at 12:17 pm
Posted on 2/26/20 at 12:16 pm to The Egg
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9. John Rhys Plumlee, Ole Miss
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7. FELEIPE FRANKS, ARKANSAS
Posted on 2/26/20 at 12:18 pm to SidewalkTiger
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In 2019 as a team, Georgia averaged 185 yards per game rushing to Wake Forest's 175. Georgia scored 21 rushing touchdowns in 14 games to Wake Forest's 18 rushing touchdowns in 13 games.
6 of those were Newman...I’m taking about the surrounding cast.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 12:20 pm to Dawgfanman
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6 of those were Newman...I’m taking about the surrounding cast.
Who says his teammates dont get those scores if they get the attempts?
Posted on 2/26/20 at 12:24 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Who says his teammates dont get those scores if they get the attempts?
Who says UGA wouldn’t have 27 rushing TDs vs 21 if Newman was there? The fact is Newman scores them, not the supporting cast we are discussing. I’m not sure he’s better than Mond, I’m not sure he’ll be better at UGA than at Wake. I do think he gives UGA a better chance at winning than a walkon or True Freshman and that’s all I care about here.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 12:34 pm to SidewalkTiger
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asked over and over again how better receivers will help Newman throw less interceptions
The question an idiot asks.
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pretty important.
So are tds and yards.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 12:34 pm to Dawgfanman
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. I do think he gives UGA a better chance at winning than a walkon or True Freshman and that’s all I care about here.
I'm not disagreeing this at all.
My original point was I dont know how someone can rank Newman above Mond at this point, knowing what we know now.
I dont think he will be a Heisman finalist but Georgia doesn't really need a quarterback to carry them right now. If he puts up the same numbers at Georgia as he did at Wake, I think Georgia will likely win the East and control their own destiny as far as the playoff goes.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 12:36 pm to djsdawg
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The question an idiot asks.
Surely a smart Dawg like you can come up with an answer then.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 12:40 pm to The Egg
Here is how Athlon ranked them last year:
14. Riley Neal
13. Ben Hicks who?
12. dude from Kentucky
11. somebody named Joey Gatewood
10. somebody named Matt Corrall
9. somebody named Kaeyteon
8. Jarrett Guantanamo Cuba Prison
7. Jake Bentley retired
6. Joe Burrow best season of ALL TIME
5. Kelly Bryant once went to Clemson
4. Flippy Frank and beans transfer his arse out
3. Kellon Mond lolololololololololololol 50-7
2 Jake Fromm over receivers head
1. Tua
Posted on 2/26/20 at 12:41 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Georgia averaged 185 yards per game rushing to Wake Forest's 175. Georgia scored 21 rushing touchdowns in 14 games to Wake Forest's 18 rushing touchdowns in 13 games.
Take the qbs out of it.
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entire point is that Newman hasnt shown us that he's better than Mond in no way, shape, or form
Passer rating shows he was better.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 12:44 pm to Lsupimp
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Here is how Athlon ranked them last year:
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14. Riley Neal
13. Ben Hicks who?
12. dude from Kentucky
11. somebody named Joey Gatewood
10. somebody named Matt Corrall
9. somebody named Kaeyteon
8. Jarrett Guantanamo Cuba Prison
7. Jake Bentley retired
6. Joe Burrow best season of ALL TIME
5. Kelly Bryant once went to Clemson
4. Flippy Frank and beans transfer his arse out
3. Kellon Mond lolololololololololololol 50-7
2 Jake Fromm over receivers head
1. Tua
Incredible
This post was edited on 2/26/20 at 12:45 pm
Posted on 2/26/20 at 12:48 pm to SidewalkTiger
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In 2019 as a team, Georgia averaged 185 yards per game rushing to Wake Forest's 175. Georgia scored 21 rushing touchdowns in 14 games to Wake Forest's 18 rushing touchdowns in 13 games.
So you spend an entire thread trying to prove that Mond is better because he played a tougher schedule in the SEC but then try and say that UGA and WF have a similar run game because they have similar stats. Which is it?
Posted on 2/26/20 at 12:48 pm to djsdawg
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Take the qbs out of it.
Why? Its team rushing stats which the other passer argued takes pressure off a quarterback to take risks in the passing game. Arguably, a dual threat quarterback can take less risks thus his rushing stats should count.
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Passer rating shows he was better
You should do some research on how flawed passer rating is as a metric.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 12:53 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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So you spend an entire thread trying to prove that Mond is better because he played a tougher schedule in the SEC but then try and say that UGA and WF have a similar run game because they have similar stats. Which is it?
Dont be dense.
The other poster said having a decent running game takes pressure off of a quarterback, yet Wake Forest did have a decent running game, much of it featuring Newman, yet Newman still threw a pick per 32 pass attempts.
I never said Mond is better, I asked how you can rank Newman ahead of Mond when both put up similar numbers yet Mond put up his against one of the hardest schedules in recent memory and Newman played in the ACC.
Newman may be light years ahead of Mond but I dont see how you can put him ahead of Mond in a preseason list like this considering he hasnt done shite in the SEC yet.
Not sure why this is triggering yall so bad.
This post was edited on 2/26/20 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 2/26/20 at 12:55 pm to SidewalkTiger
Because 1980
Posted on 2/26/20 at 12:55 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Surely a smart Dawg like you can come up with an answer then.
It’s been explained to you numerous times, and you are still repeating the question, so it appears as though you aren’t capable of understanding basic football.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 12:58 pm to SidewalkTiger
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I never said Mond is better,
Then why are you arguing so much over one spot?
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I asked how you can rank Newman ahead of Mond when both put up similar numbers yet Mond put up his against one of the hardest schedules in recent memory and Newman played in the ACC.
Certainly sounds like you're arguing he should be ranked higher.
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Not sure why this is triggering yall so bad.
Having a discussion without throwing insults and talking football is triggered.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 12:58 pm to The Egg
Obviously, the games have to be played. Until then it's just based on the data they have now.
Second, You won't see us throwing like we were imo. We will put the ball more in the hands of the RBs this season and that will hurt the yards per game of the QB. So all of those factor into the end results.
I 100% agree that Costello should lead the SEC. Like with LSU and Burrow. The system has changed and will see the WRs more open with a QB that can see the field. Throwing it 200 to 300 times more than last year will also increase those numbers.
On that note, I will also say that the results/feedback coming out of Starkville is their S&C is off the charts.
Second, You won't see us throwing like we were imo. We will put the ball more in the hands of the RBs this season and that will hurt the yards per game of the QB. So all of those factor into the end results.
I 100% agree that Costello should lead the SEC. Like with LSU and Burrow. The system has changed and will see the WRs more open with a QB that can see the field. Throwing it 200 to 300 times more than last year will also increase those numbers.
On that note, I will also say that the results/feedback coming out of Starkville is their S&C is off the charts.
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