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re: Barton Simmons/247 ranks the SEC QBs in 2020
Posted on 2/26/20 at 1:54 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Posted on 2/26/20 at 1:54 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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This isn't really what Barton was doing, but if I had to rank the QBs on where I expect them to finish in QB Passer Rating (assuming they play the whole year)
Looks realistic to me although I dont really know what to expect from Brennan.
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Posted on 2/26/20 at 1:55 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Then why are you arguing so much over one spot?
Why are yall arguing so much over one spot?
I could not care less. I don't know enough about either. I'm just pointing out the flaws in your argument.
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Mond should be ranked over Newman based on what we know now.
So you are arguing that. Good to know.
This post was edited on 2/26/20 at 2:03 pm
Posted on 2/26/20 at 1:55 pm to djsdawg
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Yet the transfers end up improving once they leave the acc. Crazy stuff
Who did that?
Posted on 2/26/20 at 1:55 pm to The Egg
Myles Brennan will be in the top 3 for passing yards and passing touchdowns. Anybody want to bet against this?
Posted on 2/26/20 at 1:56 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Passer rating is flawed as a metric.
A big part of passer rating is the one you keep on obsessing over, int %.
Of course you don’t even understand the contradiction.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 2:00 pm to djsdawg
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A big part of passer rating is the one you keep on obsessing over, int %.
Its only like one of four things so at best 25%
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Of course you don’t even understand the contradiction
Because there isnt one.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 2:03 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Because there isnt one.
You can’t trash Passer rating and then talk up big part of it without contradicting yourself. Int % is one of the flaws of the rating.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 2:05 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Who did that?
Kelly Bryant a year ago.
Greyson Lambert 5 years ago
Russel Wilson 10 years ago.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 2:05 pm to Murph4HOF
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If not, what happened to Burrow after the 2018 season to transform him into the runaway 2019 Heisman winner?
Uhm...go back and look at LSU's final three games of the season in 2018 when suddenly Burrow's numbers shot up and he became statistically the third-best QB in the country.
2018 was a transition season for LSU. As LSU intended to transition to the spread offense in 2018. The transition went slower than anticipated for a number of reasons like Joe Burrow didn't really have enough time before the season to learn the offense, the receivers in the early part of the season ran the wrong routes almost as often as they ran the correct routes, and the offensive line was atrocious.
Nonetheless, when Burrow was finally getting up to speed, the receivers were finally also running the correct routes 100 percent of the time, and the offensive line was finally starting to gel, Steve Ensminger began experimenting with 6 man protections and 5 man protections in spread formations and that's when suddenly Joe Burrow's statistics shot up into the top three of all QBs in college football.
Hence, those of us, unlike you who paid close attention to LSU, knew Joe Burrow would have an incredible season in 2019 and exactly as he did.
Joe Brady did contribute along with Ensminger and Burrow to the creation of the offense from scratch, but Brady's biggest contribution to the success of LSU was to the receiver corps.
The legend that Joe Brady was superman is a media-created and generated myth. It made for a nice story to sell newspapers, but nonetheless, it mostly hype and wasn't true.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 2:07 pm to djsdawg
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You can’t trash Passer rating and then talk up big part of it without contradicting yourself. Int % is one of the flaws of the rating.
Touchdowns are good.
Interceptions are bad.
Passer rating is flawed as a metric.
None of that is contradictory.
You're basically saying that if someone dislikes the Democratic Party then they think all politics are bad because the Democratic Party is a big part of politics.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 2:08 pm to djsdawg
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Newman had a better td:int ratio than mond.
Against astronomically far worse competition.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 2:09 pm to NattyTiger19
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Against astronomically far worse competition.
Ok sidewalker
Posted on 2/26/20 at 2:13 pm to RandySavage
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The only thing I take from that list is that the QB play in the league looks to be wayyy down next year.
Well, what else could be expected without Burrow and Tua?
Posted on 2/26/20 at 2:14 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Touchdowns are good.
Interceptions are bad.
Yet you only focus on one of them.
Int % is also a flawed metric. That’s partially why passer rating is flawed.
Not all ints are evidence of a bad pass, just as not all tds are evidence of a great pass.
Sometimes a good pass is intercepted, and a bad pass is a td.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 2:17 pm to djsdawg
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Well, he plays with upper level sec talent, so of course.
Nah, with mid-level SEC talent, but nonetheless against astronomically far better competition.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 2:18 pm to The Egg
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13. Myles Brennan, LSU
Just say you can’t rank him because you don’t know enough. A RSJR 4 star QB with a rocket arm and NFL WRs including the Belitnekoff winner in LSU’s system isn’t going to finish 13th. That’s silly. And, he looked really good when he came in last year. Brennan played a lot of 4th qtrs when LSU had big leads.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 2:20 pm to Bamafig
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Entering his eighth year of eligibility, Mond should be greatly improved.
Nah! If he isn't improved already, he isn't ever going to improve.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 2:22 pm to atomic31
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Tbh I don't really care if it did or not. I'm just saying it's unfair to say that Wake had no talent, especially in one of their better seasons in school history
The level of talent doesn't matter so much. What matters more than anything else was the piss poor level of competition he played against.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 2:23 pm to The Egg
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7. FELEIPE FRANKS, ARKANSAS
frick this guy, there is no way he is at 7 lol... Its gonna be awsome to clap his arrogant cheeks at Arrowhead come November.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 2:23 pm to NattyTiger19
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with mid-level SEC talent, but nonetheless against astronomically far better competition.
4th out of 14 in the sec.
14th out of 14 in the acc.
As you can see, one had a deficient supporting cast a lot more often than the other.
This post was edited on 2/26/20 at 2:25 pm
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