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B10 vs SEC last 6 newbies
Posted on 11/16/23 at 8:07 am
Posted on 11/16/23 at 8:07 am
Starting next season:
SEC: B10:
OU USC
Texas UCLA
A&M Oregon
Mizzou Washington
Arkansas Nebraska
SC Rutgers/Maryland
2 observations:
1. The SEC has the edge on the additions.
2 B10 really went full tard on their geographic adds.
SEC: B10:
OU USC
Texas UCLA
A&M Oregon
Mizzou Washington
Arkansas Nebraska
SC Rutgers/Maryland
2 observations:
1. The SEC has the edge on the additions.
2 B10 really went full tard on their geographic adds.
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Posted on 11/16/23 at 8:14 am to BurgTiger
B10 priority is frequent flier miles.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 8:24 am to BurgTiger
I don’t think the B1G has a great long-term strategy. From a revenue perspective, it’s about creating intriguing match-ups that people will tune in to watch (or pay to stream). The SEC still makes geographic sense (mostly). Who is going to watch Rutgers-UCLA or Washington-Maryland outside of die-hard fans of those schools? Which in the case of Rutgers or UCLA, there are none.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 8:25 am to BurgTiger
quote:
SEC: B10:
OU USC
Texas UCLA
A&M Oregon
Mizzou Washington
Arkansas Nebraska
SC Rutgers/Maryland
Winner in bold print, It's a toss up.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 8:55 am to UFMatt
OU is a better addition than USC
Posted on 11/16/23 at 8:58 am to BurgTiger
I never got how these tree hugging administrations decided it is now ok to double or triple the amount of fuel their teams are going to need to travel across the country.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 8:59 am to UFMatt
Well first of all, viewing the timeline makes for a better assessment:
1990s additions:
SEC: Arkansas, South Carolina
B1G: Penn State
2011-2014 additions:
SEC: Texas A&M, Mizzou
B1G: Nebraska, Rutgers, Maryland
2024 additions:
SEC: Oklahoma, Texas
B1G: USC, UCLA, Washington, Oregon
1990s additions:
SEC: Arkansas, South Carolina
B1G: Penn State
2011-2014 additions:
SEC: Texas A&M, Mizzou
B1G: Nebraska, Rutgers, Maryland
2024 additions:
SEC: Oklahoma, Texas
B1G: USC, UCLA, Washington, Oregon
Posted on 11/16/23 at 9:04 am to BurgTiger
quote:
2 B10 really went full tard on their geographic adds.
It's bad enough for the 2-3 cross country flights you will make in football each year, but I keep thinking of how the other sports are going to handle this. That USC @ Rutgers mid-week basketball game is going to be a bitch. Not to mention the non-revenue sports trying to figure out how to make it work.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 9:12 am to BreakawayZou83
This is how I would rank them using AP Poll finish ALL TIME LINK
It is close, the Big got 4 and the SEC got 4 top 25 programs.
3-OU
6-USC
8-Texas
8-Nebraska
18-UCLA
20-Arkansas
21- A&M
22-Washington
Non-Top 25
Oregon (Current Success, better get than SC and Mizzou)
SC
Mizzou
Maryland
Rutgers/
It is close, the Big got 4 and the SEC got 4 top 25 programs.
3-OU
6-USC
8-Texas
8-Nebraska
18-UCLA
20-Arkansas
21- A&M
22-Washington
Non-Top 25
Oregon (Current Success, better get than SC and Mizzou)
SC
Mizzou
Maryland
Rutgers/
Posted on 11/16/23 at 9:32 am to allin2010
I love SC, but why do they get ranked above us if AP polls are your criteria? Mizzou is better historically and has had more success in the SEC. Mizzou finished the season ranked 20 times to South Carolina's nine times.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 9:41 am to BurgTiger
quote:
B10 really went full tard on their geographic adds.
CBS can now run games all day long.
It was all about the TV revenue and exposure.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 10:05 am to BurgTiger
The B1G got the better of the deal. It will be a nationwide conference while the SEC will be stuck as a regional league. Plus the B1G is likely to expand south.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 10:16 am to BreakawayZou83
quote:
I love SC, but why do they get ranked above us if AP polls are your criteria? Mizzou is better historically and has had more success in the SEC. Mizzou finished the season ranked 20 times to South Carolina's nine times.
No specific order past the top 25, You are 100% correct that Mizzou would be above USCe. (Not really close)
Mizzou 262 weeks in AP Poll, USC 191
Mizzou has been to the SEC Championship Game unlike USC.
Mizzou owns the series 9-5
Conference Championships 12 -1
Bowl Games 35-25
Consensus All American 13-4
Heismans is the only areas where USC has a lead 1-0.
This post was edited on 11/16/23 at 10:17 am
Posted on 11/16/23 at 10:33 am to allin2010
quote:
Mizzou has been to the SEC Championship Game unlike USC
South Carolina has been to Atlanta
Posted on 11/16/23 at 10:36 am to BreakawayZou83
quote:
1990s additions:
SEC: Arkansas, South Carolina
B1G: Penn State
2011-2014 additions:
SEC: Texas A&M, Mizzou
B1G: Nebraska, Rutgers, Maryland
2024 additions:
SEC: Oklahoma, Texas
B1G: USC, UCLA, Washington, Oregon
When you look at it that way, the BIG has done a better job.
This post was edited on 11/16/23 at 10:38 am
Posted on 11/16/23 at 10:57 am to BurgTiger
Adding Rutgers and Maryland is where it first went a little bit off the rails for the Big 10. Like the SEC taking OU and Texas, this was mostly a defensive move, in that the Big 10 was worried that Penn State might look elsewhere (apparently there had been some assurances made that the conference would add other Eastern schools so that PSU would not be such an outlier). But, after the SEC adds OU and Texas, the Big 10 decides to throw out most of their historic criteria, and go chasing brands, geography be damned.
The Big 10 now is like an unstable element on the periodic chart. You know it's not going to last in this same shape for too long, and just hope it doesn't wreck everything else in the process.
The Big 10 now is like an unstable element on the periodic chart. You know it's not going to last in this same shape for too long, and just hope it doesn't wreck everything else in the process.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 10:59 am to UFMatt
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When you look at it that way, the BIG has done a better job.
How so?
1990's additions National Titles (SEC Gained 43 Titles)
SEC: Arkansas (38) 1 Basketball, 7 Mens Cross Country, 14 Mens Indoor T&F, 9 Mens Outdoor T&F, 1 Womens Cross Country, 4 Womens Indoor T&F, 2 Womens Outdoor T&F
SEC: South Carolina (5) 2 baseball, 2 Womens Basketball, 1 Womens Outdoor T&F
Big Ten: Penn State (23) Mens Gymnastics 3, Mens Volleyball 2, Wrestling 10, Womens Soccer 1, Womens Volleyball 7
The 2011-2014 additions lean SEC as well. Rutgers & Maryland? Not exactly known for much. Nebraska has won 2 national titles in womens volleyball since it joined the Big 10.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 11:26 am to UFMatt
quote:It did. The SEC gained little out of its footprint while the B1G took in the entire west coast.
When you look at it that way, the BIG has done a better job.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 11:43 am to BurgTiger
I cannot wait for Oregon to get spanked every year in the BIG 10. No more 1 loss regular seasons due to a cupcake PAC 12 schedule. I also think they will see less 5/4 star recruits pick them due to the traveling the have to do all season.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 11:45 am to allin2010
Directional carolina has in fact made it once to the seccg, oddly enough they faced your team auburn. You should know this
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