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re: Is Ewers the biggest example so far of NIL failure?

Posted by TexasOnTop on 4/29/25 at 2:26 pm

Your 4th post since declaring you were done with the argument.

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I'm not the NCAA trying to investigate you for violations, of which don't exist anyway since pay to play is legal now. There is no reason to pretend every deal outside a collective is just automatically "legit NIL" that is different than the collective. Some are, some aren't.

I'm going to try and put this in as simple of terms as I can. If a business pays an athlete, a service must be provided. A business handing over a large amount of cash to a college athlete for no reason would raise flags.

This isn't a tough concept to get. I'm gonna give you the benefit of doubt and assume if you weren't so emotionally invested in being "right", you'd understand how silly you sound.

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re: Is Ewers the biggest example so far of NIL failure?

Posted by TexasOnTop on 4/29/25 at 1:28 pm

Hey look, he's still arguing the same argument he said he was done with 3 posts ago.

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You lost the debate when you pretended to know the motives of people/businesses. It's impossible that you do. I know it, you know, everyone who reads this thread knows it.

It doesn't matter what their motive is. He is getting paid for a service outside of playing football. That wold mean it's not pay for play.

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It's your emotions that are preventing you from admitting it because you want this weird fantasy that your QB was just magically getting only legit NIL deals.

I don't care if his NIL deals were "legit" or not. I'm just explaining that if a service was provided outside of playing football (which would be the only way a NIL deal is legit) then it's not pay for play.
There is no way a business can justify sending a check to a college kid without a service being done, however small the service is. That would be a red flag on an audit.

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And I'm sure it'll only be pure coincidence when the NIL deals stop and the next QB magically picks them up.

Quinn made a lot of social media posts (Rhoback, New Era, Panini, ect). Those are all NIL deals.

Arch has done Redbull, Vuori, Uber. The only NIL deal that I've seen them overlap on is Panini.

Maybe they've overlapped on more deals, but those are the only ones I can list off the top of my head. But that sure isn't Arch magically picking up the same deals :lol:

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re: Is Ewers the biggest example so far of NIL failure?

Posted by TexasOnTop on 4/29/25 at 11:56 am

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I've already explained it to you. I'm not going to keep repeating myself because you are too stupid to grasp basic concepts. If you want to continue the argument, just go back and reread my posts from the last page.

You do not know their intent. PERIOD.

I guess next you're going to tell me Obama's daughter really did provide consulting worth millions of dollars.

And btw, an ad hominem is when they insult rather than provide an argument. Your inability to comprehend a basic fact is not my fault.

Yet here you are, still arguing a point you said you were done with.

I repeat, separate emotion from the argument and you might end up actually making a solid rebuttal.

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re: Is Ewers the biggest example so far of NIL failure?

Posted by TexasOnTop on 4/29/25 at 8:37 am

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It doesn't mean that, but I'm not going to sit here and argue with you anymore. You are dense as frick.

It’s exactly what it means.

Also when you start using insults instead of evidence, that typically means you lost the argument or you’re too emotionally invested. Next time try and separate your feelings and your claims. It might work out better for you.

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re: Trophies are nice ...

Posted by TexasOnTop on 4/28/25 at 10:15 pm

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Golden did nothing in Austin except claim a paycheck. Waste of talent

Are you retarded?
Stats

He went from a 6th round pick to a 1rst round pick

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re: Trophies are nice ...

Posted by TexasOnTop on 4/28/25 at 10:01 pm

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Transfer to Texas, watch your draft stock plummet to nothing.

Golden and AD Mitchell both beg to differ.

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re: Is Ewers the biggest example so far of NIL failure?

Posted by TexasOnTop on 4/28/25 at 7:23 pm

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Texas fans claimed that because he wasn't getting money from the collective, it was proof he wasn't getting any pay to play NIL.

No actually this is the initial response you replied to…

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His NIL was earned through his actual Name, Image, and Likeness

Which if it wasn’t through a collective, it means he was doing brand deals with businesses. Hence it was from his Name Image and Likeness. Businesses don’t just fork over giant chunks of change without a service being done. That’s how you trigger an audit.

This isn’t a hard topic to get. If you are doing a service outside of playing football, it’s not pay for play.

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Yeah and whores just want $500 for gas money.

I’m not sure what that has to do with a business paying an athlete for promotion.

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re: Is Ewers the biggest example so far of NIL failure?

Posted by TexasOnTop on 4/28/25 at 6:49 pm

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Once again, you do not know the intent of the individual deals.

Yet you’re acting like you do.

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It's the same with collectives, they are technically paying for services.

Correct. Both are paying for services like events and social media posts. That’s not pay for play.

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re: Is Ewers the biggest example so far of NIL failure?

Posted by TexasOnTop on 4/28/25 at 4:08 pm

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No, it does not mean that. You have no way of knowing the true intent of the deal. All deals are done under that guise.

I understand some legitimate deals exist, Bryce Young had a ton of them before collectives really started. However, just because a deal is done outside the collective does not indicate it's not pay to play.

If you donate to a collective, I don't think that counts as a business expense. However, if you do the NIL privately in contracts with your business, then things change.

A company is not just paying an athlete to exist. They are exchanging money for a service (event, social media post, ect). They have to offer a service in return for the money or you are asking to be audited.

In summary, it's not pay for play.

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re: Is Ewers the biggest example so far of NIL failure?

Posted by TexasOnTop on 4/28/25 at 2:27 pm

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No, it literally doesn't. It means people signed deals with him outside the collective.

...Which would be for him to advertise their product / brand. That's not pay for play. :lol:

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re: Is Ewers the biggest example so far of NIL failure?

Posted by TexasOnTop on 4/28/25 at 12:32 pm

It literally means he was getting paid based for his brand. Not pay for play. Austin ( unlike every other SEC college town) is a city. There are far more opportunists for NIL deals, thus the collective doesn't have to work as hard.

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