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re: AP : Saban, Kiffin, Swinney, Kelly, Riley discuss CFB model sustainability
Posted on 4/14/22 at 9:27 am to klrstix
Posted on 4/14/22 at 9:27 am to klrstix
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head coaches will lose some control over their roster and team and that is what they are most concerned with
The transfer portal has already done this. Guys don't stick it out and develop in the systems. They just transfer out at the first sign of adversity.
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Posted on 4/14/22 at 9:38 am to Stidham8
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Saban can attempt to adapt all he wants but unless there’s a big pile of oil under Tuscaloosa that the boosters discover they’re never going to have as much money as Texas or Texas A&M.
It is safe to assume you think Saban has just bought classes over and over again for his success at Alabama... from REC money I guess. But somehow programs like Texas and Texas a&m did not have their own actors out there willing to pay those same players before NIL because what... it was against the rules and their money men have higher morals than the REC? Learned while in the Big8? Only Alabama was willing to pay to that extent before NIL??? But now that the money is technically allowed, somehow all that Texas money (coming from the virtuous boosters in Texas) that you naively believe never went to their recruits will start to overwhelm Alabama money?
Sorry dude. Either everybody was cheating before or nobody was. And if you want the oil money to overwhelm Alabama, you better hope it was the latter. Because if it was the former, that means Alabama was outbidding Texas schools all along and has the money to keep doing it.
Posted on 4/14/22 at 9:56 am to VABuckeye
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The transfer portal has already done this. Guys don't stick it out and develop in the systems. They just transfer out at the first sign of adversity.
Some do, but I don't think all. But to be honest if you're a RS Sophomore/Junior and never made the 2 deep, then the transfer portal gives them an option to actually play, whereas before they'd either have to make the choice to sit out a year and get maybe 2 years at another school, or ride the pine and maybe see some snaps here and there.
Georgia just recently lost a kid Clay Webb who I think made the right choice. He came in as a 5* but never made the 2 deep. Without the transfer portal he probably never would have seen more than a few dozen snaps.
Posted on 4/14/22 at 10:06 am to Stidham8
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You're school is doing it too.
And before you say "yea, but not to the same degree" show me the evidence that there is a difference and don't post a damn picture of a player standing beside a charger. There 's more evidence that you guys bought Cam Newton than on any player in the Saban era. You have no idea who pays who what just like I don't.
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ll of them have benefited from paying players under the table and now that it’s out in the open they’ve lost their competitive advantage (Saban, Kiffin, and Swinney in particular).
You're school is doing it too.
And before you say "yea, but not to the same degree" show me the evidence that there is a difference and don't post a damn picture of a player standing beside a charger. There 's more evidence that you guys bought Cam Newton than on any player in the Saban era. You have no idea who pays who what just like I don't.
Posted on 4/14/22 at 10:24 am to MackDaddyBrown
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Nick, you get paid 10 million dollars a year to deal with that. If you can't do it
You don't really seem to know anything about Nick Saban. Saban isn't saying it isn't fair, or he can't compete with it, he's saying it's changing the game in ways that should've have been predicted, but weren't. Saban will adapt to whatever rules are in place, and still win championships.
It's similar to when he criticized the HUNH offenses. He said it put more undue stress on defensive players, - and then proceeded to kick everyone's arse with a version of the HUNH offense.
Just pointing out that a new rule will change college football is not the same thing as saying he can't compete under the new rule.
Posted on 4/14/22 at 10:38 am to SummerOfGeorge
What’s keeping the NCAA from going back to the pre Covid transfer rules.
I think this would help. Wasn’t it supposed to be temporary?
Posted on 4/14/22 at 11:01 am to SummerOfGeorge
The cat is out of the bag. Anyone with a brain could see it coming. The player are being paid FAR FAR more than what they are worth...because their worth is relative to the teams they play for and the game itself. Noone would just be paying random 20 year olds millions because they are strong and can run fast. What we have now is not fair. This is kids who were born in the right year cashing in on the work of generations of players before them.
Posted on 4/14/22 at 12:13 pm to lechateau
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“And we’ve got the best NFT, “ Kelly added
Kelly is so cringe
Posted on 4/14/22 at 2:17 pm to SummerOfGeorge
"CFP Haves Upset Things Are Changing"
Posted on 4/14/22 at 2:18 pm to lechateau
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The cat is out of the bag. Anyone with a brain could see it coming. The player are being paid FAR FAR more than what they are worth...because their worth is relative to the teams they play for and the game itself. Noone would just be paying random 20 year olds millions because they are strong and can run fast. What we have now is not fair. This is kids who were born in the right year cashing in on the work of generations of players before them.
Then the market will eventually correct itself, if we believe that markets work.
Posted on 4/14/22 at 2:19 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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You don't really seem to know anything about Nick Saban. Saban isn't saying it isn't fair, or he can't compete with it, he's saying it's changing the game in ways that should've have been predicted, but weren't. Saban will adapt to whatever rules are in place, and still win championships.
It's similar to when he criticized the HUNH offenses. He said it put more undue stress on defensive players, - and then proceeded to kick everyone's arse with a version of the HUNH offense.
Just pointing out that a new rule will change college football is not the same thing as saying he can't compete under the new rule.
He's complaining for the same reason that rich people are typically pretty conservative--if you're already on top, you don't really want anything to change much.
Posted on 4/14/22 at 2:23 pm to NaturalStateReb
Kiffin doesn't exactly seem thrilled about it.
Posted on 4/14/22 at 2:26 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Kiffin doesn't exactly seem thrilled about it.
I don't think he's complaining. I think he's just calling it what it is.
It's a bit wild west out there, but we don't have a reliable enforcement mechanism in the NCAA even if we had rules everyone agreed on.
Posted on 4/14/22 at 2:27 pm to NaturalStateReb
That's what everyone in this article is saying. They were all for NIL but without guiderails or enforcement it's just kind of blown in in 100 different directions.
It'll all work itself out eventually, but right now it's a land grab.
Edit : Everyone but Dabo, at least.
It'll all work itself out eventually, but right now it's a land grab.
Edit : Everyone but Dabo, at least.
This post was edited on 4/14/22 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 4/14/22 at 2:45 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Basically Saban has not had to adapt to any new rules change. Rules were changed because he was bending them so far at Alabama they were rendered meaningless, especially with the NCAA unwilling to truly bring down a hammer on any successful, wealthy program. Just look at how average he was in NFL where no one really has a recruiting or program $ advantage. Suddenly his supposed supernatural coaching prowess wasn’t so evident. The “haves” in CFB have no one but themselves to blame if this goes tits up. They were so damn greedy they just didn’t care how unfair a playing field they were making it for both athletes and each other.
Posted on 4/14/22 at 2:55 pm to PassingThrough
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Basically Saban has not had to adapt to any new rules change.
Oh
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Rules were changed because he was bending them so far at Alabama they were rendered meaningless, especially with the NCAA unwilling to truly bring down a hammer on any successful, wealthy program
Uhhu
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Just look at how average he was in NFL where no one really has a recruiting or program $ advantage. Suddenly his supposed supernatural coaching prowess wasn’t so evident.
Damn, Spurrier and Urban were terrible college coaches who needed the best talent to win too, I guess.
This post was edited on 4/14/22 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 4/14/22 at 3:02 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Yep, now you’re getting it.
Posted on 4/14/22 at 5:17 pm to Cregg
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Saban is a prophet.
So now we give prophet titles to captain obvious folks. enjoy the decline, y'all.
Posted on 4/14/22 at 5:38 pm to lsufball19
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agree with essentially everything Saban said
Yet, he and his Bama cronies have been doing underhanded shite for years.
Cars, Suits & bags
Yeah, he's a hypocrite that just happens to be right that this is definitely not sustainable.
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