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re: AP : Saban, Kiffin, Swinney, Kelly, Riley discuss CFB model sustainability
Posted on 4/13/22 at 3:11 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Posted on 4/13/22 at 3:11 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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We can have a thread where we go back through all of them - Saban's honest thoughts on their impact, the ridicule he got from rivals/media, and then how he beat everyone to death with them after 1-2 years of using them and finding the advantage with them......or we can just read what he and others said about the latest change and discuss whether you agree with it or not and why.
Dude was probably nodding in approval as Colin Cowherd proclaimed that Gus Malzahn's trend setting offense would run archaic Saban out of the SEC in 2014
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Posted on 4/13/22 at 3:13 pm to AUreo
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They are just worried that Miami, Texas, Oregon, U$C, etc might eventually take over CFB…
One of the coaches in this article unsure of the current model is literally the coach at USC
This post was edited on 4/13/22 at 3:14 pm
Posted on 4/13/22 at 3:13 pm to Stidham8
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As opposed to Alabama and now Georgia with Kirby having learned under Saban on how to pay the most?
Oh Good Lord ...
Posted on 4/13/22 at 3:16 pm to SummerOfGeorge
This sounds familiar.
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"If Democrats lose in 2022, the election is illegitimate."
"Public disclosure is racist."
"Not wanting to allow grooming of children is transphobic."
"An open and uncensored internet is what dictators want."
Posted on 4/13/22 at 3:17 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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This sounds familiar.
"If Democrats lose in 2022, the election is illegitimate."
"Public disclosure is racist."
"Not wanting to allow grooming of children is transphobic."
"An open and uncensored internet is what dictators want."
Posted on 4/13/22 at 3:19 pm to SummerOfGeorge
as usual saban is right. He is almost always right on these things and honestly would be an amazing commisioner.
i get tired as hell of getting beat by him and hate alabama but the man has and always will have the games best interest at heart. Frankly i believe he was right on the HUNH offense changing the game and everything else he has said.
i get tired as hell of getting beat by him and hate alabama but the man has and always will have the games best interest at heart. Frankly i believe he was right on the HUNH offense changing the game and everything else he has said.
Posted on 4/13/22 at 3:24 pm to Stidham8
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As opposed to Alabama and now Georgia with Kirby having learned under Saban on how to pay the most?
I’m all for some new teams at the top.
What a fricking idiot!
Posted on 4/13/22 at 3:26 pm to Cregg
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Saban is a prophet.
The man is basically always right. However, typically, he'll say something, everyone will bash him and/or take his comments out of context, then years later they'll realize everything he said was accurate. Hopefully people are listening this time because the current rules have set the stage to ruin college football.
Posted on 4/13/22 at 3:29 pm to Stidham8
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Yeah Saban is benefitting tremendously from a team in his same division signing the best class of all time.
Sounds a lot like him getting worked by the HUNH offenses, complaining, people thinking he was scared and done for.... and then beating people to death with it shortly thereafter. Do you really think Nick Saban and Alabama aren't going to benefit from being able to pay players and pillage others from other schools with free agency? Like really?
(they're already doing it dumb dumb)This post was edited on 4/13/22 at 3:32 pm
Posted on 4/13/22 at 3:34 pm to lsu777
Was Saban even right about the HUNH offenses? Have we seen a rise in injuries everywhere because of it?
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"At some point in time, we should look at how fast we allow the game to go in terms of player safety," Saban said. "The team gets in the same formation group, you can't substitute defensive players, you go on a 14-, 16-, 18-play drive and they're snapping the ball as fast as you can go and you look out there and all your players are walking around and can't even get lined up.
"That's when guys have a much greater chance of getting hurt when they're not ready to play."
This post was edited on 4/13/22 at 3:37 pm
Posted on 4/13/22 at 3:37 pm to Stidham8
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Stidham8
This guy is a special type of stupid.
Posted on 4/13/22 at 3:38 pm to MackDaddyBrown
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Was Saban even right about the HUNH offenses? Have we seen a rise in injuries everywhere because of it?
He only brought up injuries once or twice and it was specifically in reference to guys not being allowed to be subbed off. His argument was more that the entire game is changed when the goal is just to get to the line and get a play snapped before the other team is set or can react. And in reality, nobody really does that anymore (Gus didn't even keep doing it). About the only teams in the league that play that way now are Ole Miss and Tennessee, and they don't do it in a fast/lots of plays per drive way like Gus did. They go fast and want drives to go quickly, not fast and tons of run plays.
Bilema was the main champion of the whole injury/kids are gonna die part.
This post was edited on 4/13/22 at 3:40 pm
Posted on 4/13/22 at 3:39 pm to SummerOfGeorge
So what was he even right about then? The game is changed yes, that's the point of a different offense. 
This post was edited on 4/13/22 at 3:40 pm
Posted on 4/13/22 at 3:40 pm to MackDaddyBrown
quote:He asked if the fast-pace/HUNH offense is what people wanted college football to be? No changes were made, so that answered his question.
Was Saban even right about the HUNH offenses? Have we seen a rise in injuries everywhere because of it?
So he proceeded to adjust and he went on to change his recruiting prototype to a slimmer, faster defensive player that could go sideline to sideline and stand up to the stamina it took to defend those fast-pace teams. He evolved his own offense and implemented some of the HUNH concepts along with a faster pace offense. Tell us what happened after he adjusted and evolved his team?
Posted on 4/13/22 at 3:40 pm to MackDaddyBrown
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So what was he even right about then?
I wouldn't really say he was right or wrong about it, he just asked if that's how people really wanted the game to be played. People said yes and no real rule changes were made.
He said ok, adopted portions of it to his offense (with Lane) and changed the way he recruited and played defense (with Kirby).
Bert didn't change anything and his style collapsed.
This post was edited on 4/13/22 at 3:43 pm
Posted on 4/13/22 at 3:47 pm to RT1941
Ok, he didn't just pose a question. Nick Saban isn't some kind of football philosopher. He was angling for a rules change that he didn't get it. Same thing he's doing now.
He adapted after realizing that he'd been wrong about offense for his entire career.
Nick Saban isn't some kind of football philosopher. He was angling for a rules change that he didn't get it. Same thing he's doing now. He adapted after realizing that he'd been wrong about offense for his entire career.
Posted on 4/13/22 at 3:47 pm to jcolding41
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Stidham8 This guy is a special type of stupid.
I guess he has just given up on Auburn ever again being a contender because what he is supporting will assure Auburn will forever be an also ran. But yes. He is apparently too stupid to understand it.
Posted on 4/13/22 at 3:47 pm to MackDaddyBrown
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he'd been wrong about offense for his entire career.
LOL what?
Posted on 4/13/22 at 3:49 pm to MackDaddyBrown
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He adapted after realizing that he'd been wrong about offense for his entire career.
huh? So a new offense became prevalent in college football and that means Saban was wrong about offense "his entire career"?
Posted on 4/13/22 at 3:50 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Why wasn't he running a superior offensive system earlier in his career?
They certainly existed. He was free to steal one of them.
They certainly existed. He was free to steal one of them.
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