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re: AP : Saban, Kiffin, Swinney, Kelly, Riley discuss CFB model sustainability
Posted on 4/13/22 at 3:50 pm to Stidham8
Posted on 4/13/22 at 3:50 pm to Stidham8
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They’re all so afraid of A&M and the 8 five stars they signed. They’re also scared of Texas
A&M, or even a handful of schools aren’t going to gobble up all the talent every single year. Just because we did something one time, doesn’t mean it’s not going to change. Plenty of more schools are going to figure out the NIL stuff and at some point recruits aren’t going to be worth 10 mill + or whatever the number is.
I’m all for a fair recruiting field across every school, but the fact that nobody wants to acknowledge is it hasn’t been fair and players have been getting paid for years. A&M appears to be working the NIL angle well right now, but more schools will jump in too.
And if this was such a bad idea and everybody is saying “yep, I told you that was going to be a bad idea for college football” why were they in such a rush to allow it? Why not defer it a year or two more to study it and create better check and balances?
This post was edited on 4/13/22 at 3:51 pm
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Posted on 4/13/22 at 3:50 pm to lsufball19
If he were commissioner like you wanted, you wouldn't have Joe Burrow and 2019 
Posted on 4/13/22 at 3:51 pm to MackDaddyBrown
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Why wasn't he running a superior offensive system earlier in his career?
because he was busy winning national titles running the ball down people's throats. When the game evolved, so did he.
Posted on 4/13/22 at 3:51 pm to MackDaddyBrown
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If he were commissioner like you wanted, you wouldn't have Joe Burrow and 2019
Posted on 4/13/22 at 3:52 pm to Texas Gentleman
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A&M, or even a handful of schools aren’t going to gobble up all the talent every single year. Just because we did something one time, doesn’t mean it’s not going to change. Plenty of more schools are going to figure out the NIL stuff and at some point recruits aren’t going to be worth 10 mill + or whatever the number is.
I’m all for a fair recruiting field across every school, but the fact that nobody wants to acknowledge is it hasn’t been fair and players have been getting paid for years. A&M appears to be working the NIL angle well right now, but more schools will jump in too.
And if this was such a bad idea and everybody is saying “yep, I told you that was going to be a bad idea for college football” why were they in such a rush to allow it? Why not defer it a year or two more to study it and create better check and balances?
Agree - I think like most things it will all settle down naturally over the next 2-3 years and norms will be established.
Larger and probably more complex, but a lot like the early signing period. It threw things out of whack, some people did a good job utilizing it early and then everyone kind of found their stride with it by year 2.
This post was edited on 4/13/22 at 3:54 pm
Posted on 4/13/22 at 3:53 pm to lsufball19
quote:BS. Saban has always won by buying the best players. PERIOD
Saban frequently provides his opinion on consequences of changes he doesn't like, but always inevitably adapts, succeeds, and wins more than anyone.
Posted on 4/13/22 at 3:54 pm to MackDaddyBrown
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Was Saban even right about the HUNH offenses? Have we seen a rise in injuries everywhere because of it?
Yes, it's known that the extra snaps cause more injuries. It's not a big mystery. More plays, more injuries. Also players who are fatigued are more injury prone as well.
However, they've also found ways to subs in less than 10 seconds and that has helped to offset. They've also started using players who are smaller/faster and can be on the field in more types of situations, rather than specializing roles(which sucks IMO, but whatever).
Posted on 4/13/22 at 3:54 pm to lsufball19
And just imagine how many more titles he'd have had if he were using an actually good offensive system.
And apologies if you weren't the dude that said they wanted Saban as commissioner. I was making the point that if Saban had his way in 2012 and they banned the "new" style of offense--Joe Brady and thus LSU's greatest team ever would not exist.
And apologies if you weren't the dude that said they wanted Saban as commissioner. I was making the point that if Saban had his way in 2012 and they banned the "new" style of offense--Joe Brady and thus LSU's greatest team ever would not exist.
Posted on 4/13/22 at 3:55 pm to lsufball19
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because he was busy winning national titles running the ball down people's throats. When the game evolved, so did he.
Ball control and dominating defense ysed to win most games but rule changes. That favored offense changed that. Basically people like watching prolific offense and high scoring games so that’s what we have. I admit it’s more fun to watch.
Posted on 4/13/22 at 3:56 pm to MackDaddyBrown
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I was making the point that if Saban had his way in 2012 and they banned the "new" style of offense--Joe Brady and thus LSU's greatest team ever would not exist.
LSU's 2019 team didn't play at hyper speed at all.
Posted on 4/13/22 at 3:58 pm to MackDaddyBrown
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was making the point that if Saban had his way in 2012 and they banned the "new" style of offense--Joe Brady and thus LSU's greatest team ever would not exist.
Bruh, LSU didn’t run a no huddle offense very much at all with Burrow. They just ran a lot of read option with spread concepts. They strategically would go hurry up sometimes but it was not the scheme like Gus Bus ran at all
This post was edited on 4/13/22 at 4:02 pm
Posted on 4/13/22 at 3:59 pm to lsufball19
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I agree with essentially everything Saban said
The Saban Process:
Step 1) Saban asks if CFB really wants to do the new proposed thing
Step 2) Saban does what everyone said they wanted better than everyone else
Step 3) CFB makes a rule to address what Saban did to everyone in Step 2
Im hoping we are approaching Step 3 because if this is the new CFB I dont think I want to watch it anymore.
This post was edited on 4/13/22 at 4:00 pm
Posted on 4/13/22 at 4:00 pm to lsufball19
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not the scheme like Gus Bud ran at all
And very few teams do that today, either. Gus didn't even do it much after 2014.
Ole Miss and Tennessee are probably the closest, but Tennessee specifically tries to keep their plays per drive short because of fatigue. There was an article during last season about how Ellerbe (OL coach) will tell Heupel after play 4-5 of a drive they need to take a shot because the OL is fatigued and can't keep going.
Posted on 4/13/22 at 4:00 pm to SummerOfGeorge
They played faster than the championship Alabama teams that showed that Nick Saban supposedly learned his lesson. 
Real easy to choose when you want and don't want to conflate HUNH and spread concepts.
Real easy to choose when you want and don't want to conflate HUNH and spread concepts.
Posted on 4/13/22 at 4:01 pm to MackDaddyBrown
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And just imagine how many more titles he'd have had if he were using an actually good offensive system.
Saban has always been towards the top in points scored and total offense at Alabama regardless of what offense was en vogue at the time
Posted on 4/13/22 at 4:01 pm to Cregg
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Saban is a prophet.
Dude keeps telling people what will happen.
Then they all say he's just crying or whining.
Then it happens, and he's adjusted to the new game anyway and still wins.
Rinse and repeat.
At some point people will figure out when Saban says, "Do we want this?" - He's not complaining or whining.
He's just pointing out how the game is changing and this will be the last time you can do a damned thing about it.
Posted on 4/13/22 at 4:02 pm to MackDaddyBrown
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They played faster than the championship Alabama teams that showed that Nick Saban supposedly learned his lesson.
Real easy to choose when you want and don't want to conflate HUNH and spread concepts.
This had nothing to do with the spread and everything to do with the HUNH.
And specifically Gus and Hugh Freeze's (who took it from Gus) HUNH in 2013/2014.
This post was edited on 4/13/22 at 4:04 pm
Posted on 4/13/22 at 4:03 pm to JJJimmyJimJames
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Saban has always won by buying the best players. PERIOD
He does both, but I’ve heard ITT the new rules will prevent him from buying players so I’m confused how it will be harder for him now that it’s even easier
Posted on 4/13/22 at 4:03 pm to lsufball19
Because he always has the best players. 2020 Alabama is what happens when you have the best players AND a modern offense.
Posted on 4/13/22 at 4:03 pm to MackDaddyBrown
Why do Texas fans keep insisting on proving to us they're the least knowledgeable football fans in the country?
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