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re: According to Wolken, among the PAC-12 players’ demands is 50% of the league’s revenue

Posted on 8/2/20 at 9:16 am to
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 9:16 am to
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If this is true this is beyond stupid

I agree that the Players should get larger Stipends and secure more Economic fairness for themselves, but that 2% number is lunacy


ANY number is lunacy
Posted by jlovel7
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
21305 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 9:17 am to
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And better family care (both for parents of players and for the players with children)


I don’t think this is financially viable at all. You’re talking about basically between doubling and tripling health care coverage for each program and that’s only parents. If it’s kids then it’s even more.
This post was edited on 8/2/20 at 9:18 am
Posted by Poker Dough
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2018
8589 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 9:17 am to
Let them wish in one hand and shite in the other then tell us which one fills up first
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 9:19 am to
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I really hope these fricking lunatics finally get a taste of the real world and are told to pound sand

When that happens the entire Athl Dept will financially crumble and everyone in that Athl Dept will be pounding sand

Give them their Money ,not at a 50% level and have mutually assured SUCCESS, or give them nothing and lose FB this season and have mutually assured DESTRUCTION

Your pick?
Posted by RebelExpress38
In your base, killin your dudes
Member since Apr 2012
13502 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 9:28 am to
https://www.theplayerstribune.com/en-us/articles/pac-12-players-covid-19-statement-football-season


quote:

Pac-12 Football Unity Demands

To Protect and Benefit Both Scholarship and Walk-On Athletes


I. Health & Safety Protections
COVID-19 Protections
Allow option not to play during the pandemic without losing athletics eligibility or spot on our team’s roster.
Prohibit/void COVID-19 agreements that waive liability.
Mandatory Safety Standards, Including COVID-19 Measures
Player-approved health and safety standards enforced by a third party selected by players to address COVID-19, as well as serious injury, abuse and death.
II. Protect All Sports
Preserve All Existing Sports by Eliminating Excessive Expenditures
Larry Scott, administrators, and coaches to voluntarily and drastically reduce excessive pay.
End performance/academic bonuses.
End lavish facility expenditures and use some endowment funds to preserve all sports.*
*As an example, Stanford University should reinstate all sports discontinued by tapping into their $27.7 billion endowment.

III. End Racial Injustice in College Sports and Society
Form a permanent civic-engagement task force made up of our leaders, experts of our choice, and university and conference administrators to address outstanding issues such as racial injustice in college sports and in society.
In partnership with the Pac-12, 2% of conference revenue would be directed by players to support financial aid for low-income Black students, community initiatives, and development programs for college athletes on each campus.
Form annual Pac-12 Black College Athlete Summit with guaranteed representation of at least three athletes of our choice from every school.
IV. Economic Freedom and Equity
Guaranteed Medical Expense Coverage
Medical insurance selected by players for sports-related medical conditions, including COVID- 19 illness, to cover six years after college athletics eligibility ends.
Name, Image, and Likeness Rights & Representation
The freedom to secure representation, receive basic necessities from any third party, and earn money for use of our name, image, and likeness rights.
Fair Market Pay, Rights, & Freedoms
Distribute 50% of each sport’s total conference revenue evenly among athletes in their respective sports.
Six-year athletic scholarships to foster undergraduate and graduate degree completion.
Elimination of all policies and practices restricting or deterring our freedom of speech, our ability to fully participate in charitable work, and our freedom to participate in campus activities outside of mandatory athletics participation.
Ability of players of all sports to transfer one time without punishment, and additionally in cases of abuse or serious negligence.
Ability to complete eligibility after participating in a pro draft if player goes undrafted and foregoes professional participation within seven days of the draft.
Due process rights

This post was edited on 8/2/20 at 9:29 am
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 9:35 am to
Do we even know if this is actually player demands or just this Ramogi Huma guy putting this out on his own?
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 9:46 am to
There goes the pac 12, maybe we add Colorado and USC to the sec and move on.
Posted by MullenBoys
In the minds of Ole Miss fans
Member since Apr 2014
13673 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 9:47 am to
What would be funny is if they got their 50% and then the Universities cut the salaries of all their Professors who indoctrinated these kids to begin with. Now THAT would really be fun to watch.
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 9:49 am to
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Im pretty sure the people who hire and fire head coaches have more clout than the head coaches.

I'm pretty sure that the boosters and alumni who provide the funding have more clout than the players.

I just wanted to throw out a little reason and sunshine on this thread for you.

You conveniently left out TV money and the large Corp Sponsors that contribute even more than the boosters and Alums

Tell the Boosters to keep their donations, FB & MBB can survive on TV, merch, Tickets, and other income associated with the games being played, those booster donations are often used to fill in for shortcomings in the Non Revenue Sports, the Revenue Sports don't HAVE TO HAVE booster money, it is a plus but not a need

This isn't the 1950s & 60s, booster & alumni Money is no longer the driving force behind Economic Decisions in a P5 Athl Dept

TV money & the free market are the main Financial forces that drive Decisions in an Athl Dept, that makes a lot of folks mad because the "good ol boys" no longer have the say so they once had, the "good ol boys" only have power when the time comes to pay for fired coaches buyouts

TV Execs aren't gonna lose profitable programming over something as silly as NOT paying the players

In fact, the only group that doesn't want the Players to get paid are the people that post on this msg Board
Posted by chillmonster
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2018
5072 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 9:52 am to
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I really hope these fricking lunatics finally get a taste of the real world and are told to pound sand




This is the real world, and those kids might be on to something. I bet you 2 to 1 if this hits the courts they'll win an anti-trust case.

For better or worse if they can hit critical mass and bring officials to the table this has a chance to change all of CFB.
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 9:56 am to
Damn!

Even I think that most of that is just a bunch of left Coast hooey

Worry about the MONEY young folks, you can't legislatively force another party to like you or respect you, but you can get treated fairly from a Financial perspective
Posted by GaryGator
The Swamp
Member since Jun 2017
6354 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 9:59 am to
I know all the woke people will not agree with me on this.

But, the fact of the matter is. A pretty significant percentage of these players couldn't even get admitted to many of these universities, if not for football.
Posted by chillmonster
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2018
5072 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 10:01 am to
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But, the fact of the matter is. A pretty significant percentage of these players couldn't even get admitted to many of these universities, if not for football.


Completely true & completely irrelevant.
This post was edited on 8/2/20 at 10:02 am
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 10:07 am to
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What would be funny is if they got their 50% and then the Universities cut the salaries of all their Professors who indoctrinated these kids to begin with. Now THAT would really be fun to watch

University operations is separate from the Athl Dept and their operating expenses

They are free to cut the dead weight money losing non Revenue Sports

I'm curious that with all the tough talking "teach em about the real world" talk on this msg board, I have yet to read one poster demand that the money losing sports learn something about the real world and earn their own way and get to Financial break-even

Kinda amazing that no one asks the Money losing sports to become more successful and get to break-even
This post was edited on 8/2/20 at 10:12 am
Posted by GaryGator
The Swamp
Member since Jun 2017
6354 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 10:15 am to
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Completely true & completely irrelevant.

How is it irrelevant? They can't be asking for all these benefits, if they're never admitted into the university to begin with.
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
10925 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 10:15 am to
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And better family care (both for parents of players and for the players with children)



You knock up someone, you pay the bill, that was the first topic my sex talk had.

Under what pretense should parents get anything beyond a free education for their child?
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 10:18 am to
quote:

I know all the woke people will not agree with me on this.

But, the fact of the matter is. A pretty significant percentage of these players couldn't even get admitted to many of these universities, if not for football

So what!

Raise the Academic Standard for incoming FB Recruits at Flarda, and then watch those same Players go to Vandy or Woke Forest(see what I did there), then watch those Teams play your Gators and proceed to kick their fricking teeth in

Flarda ain't raising their Admissions Reqs for FB Recruits, so why waste the Keystrokes, this is about MONEY, something I predicted over a month ago when the initial target was confederate monuments
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
19261 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 10:25 am to
"Money losing sports ....earn their own way"? That means all women's sports get cut off from financial support. The Feds have already ruled on that, so why waste time here & elsewhere beating a dead horse? Paying for health coverage for players' parents is also moronic. No business offers health coverage for an employee's parents, let alone free coverage. Are you by any chance from Portland or Seattle? Just curious as this sounds just like some of those cities' city council proposals.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25556 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 10:27 am to
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quote:
And better family care (both for parents of players and for the players with children)


I don’t think this is financially viable at all. You’re talking about basically between doubling and tripling health care coverage for each program and that’s only parents. If it’s kids then it’s even more.


I probably wasn't clear enough.

Family care is on campus housing for baby mammas and kids.
Family care includes financial resources to cover personal expenses for a family to watch their sons play football.

Better healthcare for players includes resources to assist with injuries that linger beyond the football field.

Without player salaries, all of these should be feasible in a budget.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 10:28 am to
It's an amateur sport, I see no issue with a stipend to cover living expenses as other scholarships do that as well.

News flash, most Universities, even many big ones lose money on sports. Even the ones that don't can account in a way as to make them lose money as well.

It's an amateur sport, if they want to get paid, find another way to get to the NFL.

Many in baseball have decided college is better than minor leagues.
This post was edited on 8/2/20 at 10:35 am
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