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re: According to Wolken, among the PAC-12 players’ demands is 50% of the league’s revenue

Posted on 8/2/20 at 10:34 am to
Posted by GaryGator
The Swamp
Member since Jun 2017
6353 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 10:34 am to
You missed my point entirely. These players all receive numerous benefits. That they refuse to acknowledge.


Virtually every D1 program lowers their standards for football. These players need to realize the tremendous opportunities that they have been given, and stfu.

They've already been given the right to earn money off their name and likeness in Florida. Which I'm sure will be expanded to other states very soon.
Posted by Dennis4LSU
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Sep 2008
4481 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 10:35 am to
I'm curious when was the last time the Pac 12 was relevant?

They have become an afterthought in College Football
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 10:38 am to
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"Money losing sports ....earn their own way"? That means all women's sports get cut off from financial support. The Feds have already ruled on that, so why waste time here & elsewhere beating a dead horse? Paying for health coverage for players' parents is also moronic. No business offers health coverage for an employee's parents, let alone free coverage. Are you by any chance from Portland or Seattle? Just curious as this sounds just like some of those cities' city council proposals.

Well find a way to pay the stipends and keep the Title-IX welfare sports

Tell you what ---if they "strike" and sit out and don't play FB, most of those Athl Depts will lose $70 million dollars give or take and when that happens the Fed Govt can't force them to fund Sports where there's no money to pay for it

At this point these guys are determined and motivated, no one is gonna get sidetracked by the bullshite "what about T9" excuses

Save that BS and "pay that man his money"
This post was edited on 8/2/20 at 10:40 am
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 10:43 am to
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I'm curious when was the last time the Pac 12 was relevant?

They have become an afterthought in College Football

They are relevant enough to fund more Sports and support more total Athletes than any other Conference in the Country

Almost all their HCs in the Revenue Sports are in the $4 million & up range

There are more issues at play than just winning the CFP
Posted by Dennis4LSU
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Sep 2008
4481 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 10:53 am to
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They are relevant enough to fund more Sports and support more total Athletes than any other Conference in the Country

Almost all their HCs in the Revenue Sports are in the $4 million & up range

There are more issues at play than just winning the CFP
THIS SAYS THE LEFT WING LIBERAL...keep pushing that propaganda Hugo Chavez ....didn't realize this was the ACC Rant
Posted by BearBait09
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
2307 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 10:53 am to
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Why is that funny?


Ignoring whether or not players should be paid, or even if 50% revenue split is remotely comparable to other industry (its not) the idea that a multi billion dollar organization or company could accommodate a 50% reduction in budget to pay a new component of their work force in a 2 month time frame is so absurd that to propose such a change implies such incredible stupidity on the part of the proposer that the only reasonably appropriate response to it is derisive laughter.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27291 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 10:56 am to
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Family care is on campus housing for baby mammas and kids.


Most campuses already provide family housing.Extra "baby momma" cash is a different deal all together.They already get assistance
for day care LINK and extra
health care they've used up eligiblity

quote:

Starting in 2018, Power Five schools now must provide medical coverage for sports-related injuries up to two years after the athlete graduates or leaves school. 


quote:

It can be used for emergency travel, or enrolling in summer school or even to buy clothing. It has been used to help student athletes pay child care, 

Posted by Dennis4LSU
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Sep 2008
4481 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 11:00 am to
Oregon College Football
Pac-12 announces revenue distribution to schools for 2018-19, numbers lag behind other Power 5 conferences

The Pac-12 distributed $32.2 million per school for the 2018-19 fiscal year, the conference reported in a news release Friday.

The conference had total revenue of $530 million, and distributed a total of $387 million.

Those figures represent an increase a seven-percent increase in revenue and a nine-percent increase in distribution, and do not take into account equity in the Pac-12 Networks, which are owned by the conference.


The Pac-12 continues to lag behind other conferences in both revenue generated and distributed.


The Big Ten, for instance, reported total revenue of $781.5 million and distributed $55.6 million to all members except recent additions Maryland and Rutgers. The SEC reported total revenue of $720.6 million and distributed $44.3 million to all schools but Mississippi, which received less after being banned from football postseason play in 2018-19.

Those figures are likely to decline across in coming fiscal years because of fallout from the coronavirus pandemic.
This post was edited on 8/2/20 at 11:03 am
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25542 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 11:02 am to
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Most campuses already provide family housing.Extra "baby momma" cash is a different deal all together.They already get assistance
for day care LINK and extra
health care they've used up eligiblity


Georgia does. I don't think that is the norm, though. I doubt more than half of the P5 schools do it.

As for football injuries, the athletic associations should be responsible for more than 2 years. It shouldnt fall on GoFundMe campaigns from the fans in seats.

I'm not for baby mama cash.
I'm for the parents of the student athletes getting a mileage expense and a per diem (hotel) so that they can watch their kids play foosball.

I dont think it needs to be much. But it's expensive to be a college football fan. Helping the parents out a little makes sense.
Posted by BamaRoo
Shitlingthorpe, UK
Member since Jul 2009
3359 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 11:06 am to
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Save that BS and "pay that man his money"

Just curious : Pay what man his money ?---every man equally on the team, from long snapper to
that star QB or runner already loaded with
endorsements ?---and if not, what happens to team
morale, or would that even be important any longer ?
---and do we "pay the man his money", only
to men involved in money-making sports ?
And, etc., etc., etc. ?
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27291 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 11:16 am to
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I'm for the parents of the student athletes getting a mileage expense and a per diem (hotel) so that they can watch their kids play foosball.


They do for the CFB playoffs ($2,500 for each game and March Madness) but I wouldn't have any objections to helping out families travel to see their kids play.

quote:

for more than 2 years


How much more?
Posted by gamecockman12
Columbia, SC
Member since Aug 2012
5857 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 11:22 am to
This is pathetic. Agreed that the players deserve more, but 50% of the revenue is ludicrous. These players need to take an Economics class and realize the impact across the universities under that scenario.
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11454 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 11:25 am to
So let’s give them 50% of the revenue. That means everything but football, basketball and maybe baseball/softball is gone. Now you’re all fricked up on Title IX numbers. So you either add more women’s sports or something else has to go. See how this stupid shite doesn’t work?

Reasonable concerns and demands are one thing and most would support such a dialogue. Breaking out your Christmas wish list just to see what you can get someone to agree to is stupid, nonproductive, and a waste of time, energy, and good will. So choose wisely.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27291 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 11:26 am to
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don't think that is the norm, though. I doubt more than half of the P5 schools do it.



I would think most of these big state institutions would have family/married housing.

I could always increase the R&B stipend those with kids.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27291 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 11:27 am to
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don't think that is the norm, though. I doubt more than half of the P5 schools do it.



I would think most of these big state institutions would have family/married housing.

I soppose you could always increase the R&B stipend those with kids.
Posted by jatebe
Queen of Links
Member since Oct 2008
18275 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 11:27 am to
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Brett McMurphy
@Brett_McMurphy
· 2h
Pac-12 players demands not to boycott season include: commish Larry Scott, administrators & coaches must drastically reduce salaries; distribute 50% of each sport’s Pac-12 revenue among athletes in each sport & prohibit COVID agreements waiving liability LINK ]

[quote]Mike Morgan
@MorganOnAir
Had a P5 AD tell me last year if we just paid all football/basketball players $50K a year, and had them pay for everything on their own--tuition/tutoring/meals/housing/PT/etc, the schools would actually save money.


So college sports is dead. Now we will have "NFL lite".

If you pay the athletes, take away the scholarships. Make them responsible for their tuition, books, housing, meals. They should pay for their own tutors; pay for membership to the athletic facilities which includes weight room & rehabilitation.

They should have to pay for their travel expenses and stays in hotels during away games, including bowl games, etc.

They should also be penalized if they miss a game.

If they want to be paid professionals, put them under contract like the NFL players & make them pay like the NFL players do.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64468 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 11:29 am to
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Tell the Boosters to keep their donations, FB & MBB can survive on TV, merch, Tickets, and other income associated with the games being played, those booster donations are often used to fill in for shortcomings in the Non Revenue Sports, the Revenue Sports don't HAVE TO HAVE booster money, it is a plus but not a need



You’re adorable
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64468 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 11:31 am to
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if they "strike" and sit out and don't play FB,

They won’t. Good talk
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105376 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 11:48 am to
So these players haven’t exposed their names or Dan isn’t sharing their names?


Also, if a player is not performing then the school should be able to let them go at will. Should the players ever get a share of revenues that is.
This post was edited on 8/2/20 at 11:51 am
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64468 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 11:53 am to
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Also, if a player is not performing then the school should be able to let them go at will. Should the players ever get a share of revenues that is.


Great point. It would only be fair to be able to cut a kid in fall practice if he’s not up to snuff.
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