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re: According to Wolken, among the PAC-12 players’ demands is 50% of the league’s revenue
Posted on 8/2/20 at 12:56 pm to GaryGator
Posted on 8/2/20 at 12:56 pm to GaryGator
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How is it irrelevant? They can't be asking for all these benefits, if they're never admitted into the university to begin with.
They aren't admitted for academics. By the criteria used they are more than qualified
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Posted on 8/2/20 at 12:58 pm to BamaGradinTn
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You've never even fricking heard of Title IX, have you?
He has no idea how it works and that it would take an act of Congress to get rid of it. He only wants basketball and football to get increased stipends, which is impossible under Title XI. He just can’t grasp that stipends on the level for which he’s advocating will bankrupt almost every athletic department in America.
Typical liberal bullshite. Lot of fairy tale theories with no understanding of the economics behind what he’s proposing.
This post was edited on 8/2/20 at 12:59 pm
Posted on 8/2/20 at 1:00 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
quote:Very simple...then if thats such a concern, that player shouldn't play football then...ITS PART OF THE GAME, I guess you feel everyone deserves a participation trophy...They have a choice, They are not Pros, getting a free college education is more than most get.
So the players sweat, toil, break bones and get injuries that will impact their future Health, they also get a debt free bachelor's degree, while the HC gets a $9million salary and an 8 figure buyout, with no room for the Athlete to EVER NEGOTIATE BETTER TERMS, the HC gets to negotiate better terms , but not the Athletes that are raising 98% of that Money, ethnicity is immaterial to this discussion, even if they were all white they'd deserve to get larger Stipends
Posted on 8/2/20 at 1:08 pm to HailToTheChiz
I've got a better proposition. How about we make it illegal for universities to charge students an athletic fee to fund football teams and athletic departments.
Posted on 8/2/20 at 1:11 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
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So the players sweat, toil, break bones and get injuries that will impact their future Health, they also get a debt free bachelor's degree
That describes my college career... except my health concerns are more relatable to a quest for more pizza
Posted on 8/2/20 at 1:15 pm to 3down10
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In many schools, donors are the only reason the programs are even able to exist at all.
Post 1984 this might be the most delusional thing ever posted on any CFB Msg Board
You know less than nothing about College Sports
All the ADs are juggling schedules to try to save the TV Money and you think "donors" are the straw that's stirring the drink
Sad & pathetic
Saban makes more than $200K base from the Athl Dept, he probably gets $2 million from Nike, $3Million from Coach's Radio & TV Shows, more from camps , etc, but to make it seem like donors are paying his yearly salary doesn't tell the entire story
Posted on 8/2/20 at 1:15 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
quote:Why would the 3rd string defensive back deserve anymore money? The whole idea behind paying football players more money is that their likeness draws fans when in reality the majority of fans are so due to being alumni or because of state pride. However, if you are going to pay players due to their popularity on 30 or so players need to make any additional money and probably only about 50 players on a team need to be on a scholarship.
pay the 85 scholly FB players
Nobody outside of hardcore fans know who the 3rd string defensive back is and the fact that we have had baseball players like Andrew Benintendi and Heston Kjerstad who are only on partial scholarship compared to backup jabronis on the football team is a travesty.
Weird how you never hear them complain though. Maybe it's because they are on academic scholarship and having to earn their way.
Posted on 8/2/20 at 1:16 pm to Glorious
More like a knob slob
Posted on 8/2/20 at 1:18 pm to Henry Jones Jr
quote:Yeah..... they don't want to pay for all the benefits that they take for granted:
There will have to be some give and take if they're going to get half the revenue. If they get that revenue then their scholarships are reduced to half scholarships and they have to then pay for student housing and their own food.
But i would be willing to bet they want all of that for free still
Posted on 8/2/20 at 1:20 pm to meansonny
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They are rare
Unbelievably rare.I cannot ever remembering happening in the last 50
years a Sanford.
Don't see why all these schools don't have
catostrophic insurance and whatever insurance Southern provided him must have been pretty shitty.
Posted on 8/2/20 at 1:25 pm to hilltophog
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I've got a better proposition. How about we make it illegal for universities to charge students an athletic fee to fund football teams and athletic departments
I agree but you are only partially correct
At the P5 level student Athl fees are a drop in the bucket of the overall Revenue that an Athl Dept brings in, in most cases those Athl Fees are used to help support the Non Revenue Sports, FB , MBB, & Baseball are self supporting
Maybe at the low levels of CFB do the Student Athl Fees help support the FB Program, but not at the P5 level
The flip side of your suggestion is that if Students want to attend Games, then they'll have to buy tickets like the General Public
My guess is that maybe 70% don't mind the Student Athl Fees as long as they get to see some big time Games for "free"
Posted on 8/2/20 at 1:27 pm to Houag80
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Like the NFL, these athletes are so fkg stupid I am amazed they can tie their own shoes.
I wouldn’t say these kids are dumb, they just lack practical life experiences. Their letter and demands reek of a group of kids that don’t understand why car insurance is necessary.
The PAC 12 should let these kids in the letter have a look into the day to day operations and costs behind running a power 5 conference.
The health concerns related to COVID 19 are completely reasonable, but the rest of the demands seem to be coming from kids that know they won’t be playing on Sundays, so they need to get something now.
Posted on 8/2/20 at 1:27 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
quote:If your contract is guaranteed, why should you care?
If you're Saban or Dabo and you're making $9 Million per year, are you gonna allow things to deteriorate to the club sport Level knowing that a Club Sport cannot pay you $9 million per year?
Posted on 8/2/20 at 1:30 pm to diddlydawg7
We going Power 4 or picking up the Funbelt?
Posted on 8/2/20 at 1:32 pm to FearlessFreep
quote:because once you drop down to club sport Level, the TV Money disappears and so does that $9million per year
If your contract is guaranteed, why should you care?
No one earns $9mil per yr coaching Club level FB
Posted on 8/2/20 at 1:33 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
quote:We don't have athletic fees at The University of Arkansas. All of our sports outside of football and basketball are free. Football and basketball admission is given with the purchase of an annual athletic pass for $100. Compare that to some schools who charge anywhere from $300 to $400 per semester and the students don't have a choice. A lot of G5 programs who charge $300 per semester have season ticket packages (albeit bad seats) for cheaper.
My guess is that maybe 70% don't mind the Student Athl Fees as long as they get to see some big time Games for "free"
This post was edited on 8/2/20 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 8/2/20 at 1:33 pm to diddlydawg7
Hasn’t the PAC-12 boycotted football the last 4-5 years?
Posted on 8/2/20 at 1:34 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
Would you say CFB has been beneficial or harmful to the black population in America?
Posted on 8/2/20 at 1:34 pm to hilltophog
I don't think some of these athletes understand what could easily happen - especially in a time when most athletic departments are in dire straits. It would not be far fetched to just get rid of athletic scholarships. If they want to play collegiate sports then they can get admitted like the rest of the student body. What happens then? TV money will be less (possibly) but that was on shaky ground already. Donors and season ticket holders will remain. Coaching salaries will be reduced (THANK GOD) and fans who go to games will do so because actually care about the program vs. just showing up because they want to be on tv. Sounds great to me. College athletics that are based on COLLEGE athletes - amazing concept.
Posted on 8/2/20 at 1:39 pm to hilltophog
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just showing up because they want to be on tv
Lol who is going to a 90k+ stadium to get on TV?
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