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re: 1995 Nebraska or 2001 Miami vs. 2019 LSU using 1995 rules (Targeting, etc)

Posted on 1/15/20 at 1:43 pm to
Posted by Pdubntrub
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 1/15/20 at 1:43 pm to
Nebraska's offense is incredibly hard to stop. Don't forget they beat an insanely loaded Miami team in 1994. Best is hard to gather but 95 Nebraska is the most dominant. Frazier and Green are elite as it gets. Some of yall need to go watch some highlights
Posted by Pdubntrub
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 1/15/20 at 1:49 pm to
I'm not saying nutrition isn't better but by the time the 90s rolled around every high school had a strength and conditioning program much less major college programs. Nebraska was famous for is strength program at that time. They were huge and fast, ask any FSU, UF or Miami or could Derrick Brooks, Ray Lewis or Jevon Kearse not big or fast enough either
Posted by SCgamecock2988
Member since Oct 2015
14062 posts
Posted on 1/15/20 at 1:59 pm to
What were the helmets like in 1939?
Posted by Philippines4LSU
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 1/15/20 at 2:04 pm to
Florida scored 24 on that Nebraska team, so I have to think LSU gets at least 52-55. LSU’s defense is light years better than Florida’s ‘95 D.

Impossible to know the exact outcome, but I’d definitely take LSU straight-up.
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 1/15/20 at 2:06 pm to
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You mean the LSU team that barely beat a Texas team whose head coach fired something like 5 assistants in order to avoid being fired himself at season’s end?

And the LSU team that barely beat an Auburn team that lost to a Minnesota team that barely beat Ga Southern, Fresno State and South Dakota?

And the LSU team that probably would have lost to Bama had Tua been healthy in that game? And barely beat Bama as it was?



You’re saying 2019 LSU was not that good.

This defines you as stupid.
Posted by Enos Burdette
Atlanta, Georgia
Member since Dec 2019
693 posts
Posted on 1/15/20 at 2:18 pm to
Bruh I watched them the first time. Nebraska had a very good offense, probably the best ground game ever, and absolutely scores points against anyone. They are easily the most dominant team ever against the competition they played. I’m not trying to take anything away from them.

This is the thing - you can only judge teams against the competition they play. Nebraska destroyed everybody they played in 1995. I definitely think they give LSU a game. But I don’t think they could keep up with the 2019 national champions who had one of the greatest seasons ever and that’s no slight.

This post was edited on 1/15/20 at 2:20 pm
Posted by 5iveEuax4eaux
Member since Jan 2020
585 posts
Posted on 1/15/20 at 3:54 pm to
In deed. In a completely different scheme with lineman 305+. They don't run the triple option. Speed would matter for Nebraska. The whole point of the small offensive line is so they are mobile enough to get you moving side to side an create running lanes. Go watch Phillips highlights. You'll see 80% of the plays are outside runs. Even the non option plays were toss sweeps and stretch handoffs. They were physical but they weren't maulers. It would take 3 guys to block Tyler, Queen running sideline to sideline, Chaisson setting the edge and funneling everything back inside. Phillips gonna eat.
Posted by 5iveEuax4eaux
Member since Jan 2020
585 posts
Posted on 1/15/20 at 4:03 pm to
It's not that they are bums, just physically outmatched. It's just different now compared to then. Now if you're argument is that '95 Nebraska was further ahead of the pack in '95 than LSU is in 2019, I would definitely listen to that angle
Posted by Cfrobel
Member since Nov 2019
272 posts
Posted on 1/15/20 at 4:11 pm to
Will the rules of this hypothetical game allow Nebraska to put a beating on Burrow like they did to Frank Costa in the 95 Orange Bowl?
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
23711 posts
Posted on 1/15/20 at 4:26 pm to
LSU played hell dealing with Ole Freaking Miss. Plumlee is no Tommie Frazier, and he didn't have the backs helping him the caliber of Nebraska's.

The Huskers would move the ball, make no mistake about it. So would LSU, and I think you would see the strangest shootout ever. One team going up top, and the other running up and down the field.
Posted by SadUCFKnight
Member since Jun 2008
2620 posts
Posted on 1/15/20 at 4:28 pm to
Miami’s 2001 team had 38 players on that roster ultimately drafted to the NFL including multiple 1st rounders and at least 1 hall of Famer and more when Vince Wilfork gets in. That roster alone would cost 120 million dollars if all were placed on an NFL roster today. Neither LSU or the Huskers has one iota of a chance by comparison.
Posted by 5iveEuax4eaux
Member since Jan 2020
585 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 2:37 am to
That's the squad I feel could beat us. I just don't see it happening with '95 Nebraska. I understand the scheme is tough, but when it's gonna take 5 to block 3 and our backers are as fast if not faster than all your backs but one, it's gonna be tough. Anything is possible I guess
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
14865 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 3:36 am to
LSU 19 murders them
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65013 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 3:38 am to
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Florida scored 24 on that Nebraska team


One of those touchdowns was from a kick return. We're talking about an offense whose running backs all averaged over 7 yards per carry for the season and against Florida.
This post was edited on 1/16/20 at 3:39 am
Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
19837 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 3:51 am to
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1995 Nebraska

Lots of ppl commenting in here never saw this team just fkn maul ppl. I rewatched the Husker / Gator game again the other day for the first time since I saw it on tv. They were amazing.

Went 25-0 over 2 seasons, had an avg margin of victory of like 36 points or something like that and most of the time the starters were sitting by halftime. The 95 Huskers only trailed ONCE during the regular season as their defense allowed 13 ppg.
That's Dominance, ppl.

And that Gator team was no slouch either.

Just went and looked at the schedule, they avg'd 30 pts before halftime for the season. Before halftime, you got 4 td's, with a defense giving up 14 pts a game.
This post was edited on 1/16/20 at 4:09 am
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
23711 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 3:54 am to
The Ole Miss offense ran up and down the field on LSU. Totally outclassed talent wise.

Over 400 yards rushing and 614 total. John Rhys Plumlee was a nightmare. What the HELL do you think Tommie Frazier could do? With much better running backs and yes a better OL?
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
4305 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 4:00 am to
Relative to their era, '95 Nebraska. Time machine game, '19 LSU.
Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
19837 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 4:42 am to
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This. Shelvin, Rashard, and Logan would mash those 280 lb olinemen. Phillips and Green don't have any speed advantage on Queen and those guys.

UF with one of their worst OLs Ive seen in a long time, went up and down the field on that defense.
Cmon man.

Noone is Saying the Tigers aren't one of the best to do it. But again we're talking about the best ever in a Husker team with a win margin of 5 tds with their starters sitting by the half in most games.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65013 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 5:03 am to
Nebraska didn’t just try to run around you. They ran right at you. They did utilize the option but they also ran a lot of counters, delays, and dives to go along with the toss sweep. Speed is negated when they’re coming directly at your linebackers and are running through them.
Posted by BornAndRaised_LA
Springfield, VA
Member since Oct 2018
5228 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 5:44 am to
quote:

Hypothetical: How long would Ray Lewis (2001 Miami) have lasted with the current targeting rules?


Today’s refs would have seen Lewis run out of the tunnel and would have immediately banned him forever for the safety of all involved.
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