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re: 13 Game Season with 9 game conference schedule

Posted on 11/13/18 at 3:53 pm to
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 11/13/18 at 3:53 pm to
13 game season ameliorates the loss of homegame concern that I vehemently share with you if we had a 9 game con schedule in a 12 game regular season.

Think this through.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25594 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 3:56 pm to
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13 game season ameliorates the loss of homegame concern that I vehemently share with you if we had a 9 game con schedule in a 12 game regular season.

Think this through.



My last response was to Fred regarding 10 conference games in a 12 game season.

10 conference games aleviates the home/road imbalance in seasonal scheduling.

I like the idea of 13 games. More football will never get a veto from me.
I object to a 9 conference game schedule because of the imbalance home/road.

What goal are you trying to achieve with 9 conference games? Because once you lay that out, I promise you that there will be a better solution to meet your goal.
This post was edited on 11/13/18 at 3:57 pm
Posted by fibonaccisquared
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 11/13/18 at 4:11 pm to
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What goal are you trying to achieve with 9 conference games? Because once you lay that out, I promise you that there will be a better solution to meet your goal.


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Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
57854 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 4:41 pm to
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So playoff teams play up to sixteen games?
As if they won't get a month off between the first 14 and the last two.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30599 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 6:28 pm to
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You lost me at 9 conference game schedule.

Home/Away ratio doesn't work for a balanced season.
I like 10 conference games, 1 Power-5 OOC game and 1 cupcake game.
Posted by PHS
Member since Apr 2013
154 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 6:56 pm to
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So Bama is going to have 5 conference home games while Auburn has 4 conference home games?

That won't fly. Ever.

Unless you have each team play a neutral site, it isn't going to work.

Are you concerned that having 9 game conference schedules would create advantages and disadvantages in regard to reaching the conference championship game? If so, there's no need for concern.

There are an odd number of teams in each SEC division, which means that each team has an even number of division opponents, which means that each team's odd, ninth conference game would come in to play cross-divisionally, which means that the 5/4 home game split would occur cross-divisionally like it's done in the BIG 10. Right? Each team in one division would play 2 of 3 cross-division opponents at home and each team in the other division would play 1 of 3 cross-division opponents at home, and they would switch places each year.

If in year so and so every SEC West team has, say, 4 designated home conference games and every East team has 5, who exactly has the advantage? Who is at a disadvantage? Cross-divisional teams aren't judged against each other.

The issue you may be thinking of (which, IMO, isn't really an issue) applies to conferences which divisions have an even number of teams and which teams play an odd number of conference games, such as the PAC 12 today. It also applies to conferences with no divisions but still with an even number of teams that play an odd number of conference games, such as the Big 12 today and like the SEC from '88-'91, and like lots of other conferences over the years.
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 11/13/18 at 6:59 pm to
No drop the 12th game FCS add an sec game for a total of 11 regular season games. You’d more than make up the difference in revenue hosting a conference team than paying a rent a win. Sec cg makes 12 and then a 8 teammplayoff. 16 games is too many for colllege students.
Posted by Muthsera
Member since Jun 2017
7319 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 7:08 pm to
12 games, 10 conference games, 1 conference championship game. Independents find a conference or get shut out.

No playoff. No schedule qualifiers. BCS computers pick the top 2 for a Championship Game. No analysts, no polls, no eye test.
This post was edited on 11/13/18 at 7:09 pm
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62765 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 7:09 pm to
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You lost me at 9 conference game schedule.


If you're really a Georgia fan, a 9 game schedule is perfect. Every year is 4 home, 4 away, 1 WLOCP.
But, the imbalance really isn't one. In alternating years, either all of the East has 5 home/ 4 away, or all of the West teams do.
The 9 game schedule needs to happen now.
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
24159 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 7:12 pm to
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So playoff teams play up to sixteen games?


No. That would be up to 17 games. 13 regular, conference championship, and 3 playoff games. 16 is the minimum that teams in the championship would play.
This post was edited on 11/13/18 at 7:13 pm
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25594 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 7:20 pm to
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No drop the 12th game FCS add an sec game for a total of 11 regular season games. You’d more than make up the difference in revenue hosting a conference team than paying a rent a win.


That is false for a lot of reasons.
When UGA plays Austin Peay and Arkansas plays the Eastern Ill, that is 2 home games. Home stadium revenues. TV revenue for the conference on 2 games.

When you place an extra conference game to schedule 7-1 UGA @ 0-6 Arkansas... you lose revenue from a game that completely disappears from the schedule. TV revenue to be shared among the conference. Home stadium proceeds. Proceeds for hotels, restaurants/bars, etc..

More conference games equals fewer games, tickets, and TV revenue for the conference.

If you want to get rid of cupcakes, schedule games against Clemson, Notre Dame, Texas, Arizona State, Oklahoma State.
Yes. You might want to schedule 2 p5 OOC games in the same year.
Hell... you may want to schedule 3.

If you want better, do better.
No need to limit your opportunities by stripping the ability of your AD to schedule games your fans want to see.
I'm not excited about seeing Arkansas, Ole Miss, or Miss St more often. More conference games is just more of the same.

I'd rather see something better and different.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41304 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 7:24 pm to
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Change my mind.


I won’t do it I tell ya, I won’t.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25594 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 7:25 pm to
quote:

Are you concerned that having 9 game conference schedules would create advantages and disadvantages in regard to reaching the conference championship game? If so, there's no need for concern.

There are an odd number of teams in each SEC division, which means that each team has an even number of division opponents, which means that each team's odd, ninth conference game would come in to play cross-divisionally, which means that the 5/4 home game split would occur cross-divisionally like it's done in the BIG 10. Right? Each team in one division would play 2 of 3 cross-division opponents at home and each team in the other division would play 1 of 3 cross-division opponents at home, and they would switch places each year.

If in year so and so every SEC West team has, say, 4 designated home conference games and every East team has 5, who exactly has the advantage? Who is at a disadvantage? Cross-divisional teams aren't judged against each other.

The issue you may be thinking of (which, IMO, isn't really an issue) applies to conferences which divisions have an even number of teams and which teams play an odd number of conference games, such as the PAC 12 today. It also applies to conferences with no divisions but still with an even number of teams that play an odd number of conference games, such as the Big 12 today and like the SEC from '88-'91, and like lots of other conferences over the years


I appreciate that.

I was not aware how it was handled.

Honestly, I am tired of playing Vandy, Kentucky, Mizzou, etc.. every year.
And I am not excited about playing Arkansas, Ole Miss, and Miss St more often.

Half of the league is below average. Think about it.
If I face below average teams, I want it to be a team that I haven't faced in a while. Texas in a down year. Colorado in a down year. Notre Dame in a down year.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25594 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 7:27 pm to
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If you're really a Georgia fan, a 9 game schedule is perfect.


quote:

The 9 game schedule needs to happen now.


Ummm no

Why do you want 9?
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63965 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 7:31 pm to
Michael Keaton?
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62765 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 7:31 pm to
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Why do you want 9?

Because i don't give a shite about The Citadel, Chattanooga, Valdosta State, Texas - San Antonio, Georgia State, Austin Peay, or any other team that has no business playing an SEC team.
Would you rather see, say a UGA -Texas A&M game, or UGA - Charleston Southern game?
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63965 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 7:38 pm to
I support a 9 game schedule if we go 13 game season.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25594 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 7:43 pm to
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Because i don't give a shite about The Citadel, Chattanooga, Valdosta State, Texas - San Antonio, Georgia State, Austin Peay, or any other team that has no business playing an SEC team.


Then stop scheduling them.
quote:

Would you rather see, say a UGA -Texas A&M game, or UGA - Charleston Southern game?

We will play a@m. Adding a 9th game tags along arkansas, Ole miss, and miss state.

If you want to rotate the other division faster, let's not pretend that UGA needs to play kentucky, vandy, mizzou, and south Carolina every year. That solves 2 problems.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
15802 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 9:03 pm to
Will not happen
Posted by Godawgs4
Member since Aug 2016
4250 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 11:29 pm to
10 game regular season
8 conference games
16 team play off
10 conference champions + 6 wild card bids
Play the first round games at the higher seeded team’s campus.
Remaining 7 games will use the existing best bowls, Sugar, Rose, Orange, Fiesta, Cotton, Peach plus one of them would get the championship game as a second game.

In addition, 20 teams would get bowl bids to the 10 bowl games that remain. That could be done by a bid system.

This way , 36 teams play in the postseason (down from the 80 we have now) which is ridiculous. You have to earn it here by either qualifying for the playoff or by having an outstanding season that falls just short of the play off.

Money from the play-off is divided equally among all the schools to make up for the two less games on the schedule. Participating teams get a little extra plus expenses.

This would be a win - win all around. Better regular season. Easier on the kids playing, two less games during the regular season. Attendance goes up because each game is important. Ratings would be higher as each game means more. Eliminate the stupid Tuesday, Wednesday and Friday games. Have one and only one game on Thursday night and make it special again. Eliminate the Thanksgiving night game unless the NFL agrees to go back to just two games in the afternoon (DTW and DFW). If they do so, then have only one CFB game that night.
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