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RebelExpress38
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NFL Scout weighs in on Ole Miss Offense
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@LedyardNFLDraft: If you ever wanted to watch everything not to do as a passing offense in the red zone, watch Ole Miss. incredible how difficult they make it on themselves

Guess how many times D.K. Metcalf had an inside release vs LSU?

2.

Imagine having a weapon like that, sticking him strictly on the left side, on the numbers, with only outside releases and asking him to run a nine, a hitch or a comeback all game vs best secondary in country.


“Greedy blanketed DK!”

Wanna know why? Every route was the same. For Greedy, just Open to the sideline and run. Knew what was coming every play bc Ole Miss is so predictable. Took their own best player out of the game with poor scheme




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and route combinations almost never complement each other or put any defensive back in conflict.



Senior Draft Analyst at NFL Draft Network. He does this stuff for a living.




Interesting quote from AJ on the offense:




But hey we have stats!


Lawyered
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re: NFL Scout weighs in on Ole Miss Offense
Longo.... more like Wrongo


Blaeke
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re: NFL Scout weighs in on Ole Miss Offense
This isn't going to help his head coaching aspirations.


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Doresrules
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re: NFL Scout weighs in on Ole Miss Offense
That was Ole Miss offense prior to Longo as well. It's the reason Treadwell had no clue how to run a route tree. Some college coaches believe keeping it extremely simple is the best route to take.

I don't personally agree. It's no different than the few defenses that don't change much schematically. They just do what they do well. And live and die when other teams figure it out.


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Doresrules
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re: NFL Scout weighs in on Ole Miss Offense
The entire concept of running only 20 plays or so might be the dumbest scheme I've heard of. Not to mention gloating about it. Teams would figure out what we wanted to do in one half.

His offense works when you have superior athletes. When everything is equal, it requires a scheme. His scheme was too simplistic for the SEC top teams.


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olemissfan26
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re: NFL Scout weighs in on Ole Miss Offense
This is more damaging to Longo than red zone stats.

Yet Matt doesn’t have the balls to fire him. Bet he keeps him when he doesn’t get a HC job


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umrebel2009
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"Get open" oh boy


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DownSouthJukin
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re: NFL Scout weighs in on Ole Miss Offense
If you read up on Longo when he was hired, you knew this was what we were going to get.


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UMRealist
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re: NFL Scout weighs in on Ole Miss Offense
To be fair it was the same knock they had against Donte and Laquon.


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Shunface
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re: NFL Scout weighs in on Ole Miss Offense
But top 10 offense!

What happens when you can’t coach and make adjustments. We run a bush league scheme because we have bush league coaches.

When ALL of your skill players get drafted and you can’t figure out how to put them into position to succeed you have no business coaching.


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GatorReb
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re: NFL Scout weighs in on Ole Miss Offense
I was looking through the Dynasty Fantasy Football league subreddit today and got to a see some douche canoe with “Dawg” in his name give a huge post about why teams should be weary of AJ and DK.

Sad thing is because he “did so much research” he pointed out “solid” points against the two. His main point was that AJ doesn’t know how to run routes so he will fail in NFL.

Luckily a good bit of people called him out for saying it wasn’t the players fault that AJ has the talent but blamed the coaching. I don’t think anyone noticed the obvious hate from him being a State guy.


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RebelExpress38
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re: NFL Scout weighs in on Ole Miss Offense
This is why Ta’amu regressed. How is he supposed to develop when it’s just 4 WRs running what they feel like every play? This is backyard football, not SEC.


Fireman17
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yep and if we keep Wongo.. Now with this coming out we will lose WR recruiting.. No WR wants go some playing backyard football when they want see the NFL..


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umrebel2009
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Longo's "get open" offense is how I imagine Bjork runs the athletic department.

"I dont really know what to do here sooo.. make something happen! Hope it works! Kbye!"


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umrebel2009
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Just think about the fact that we had all this offensive talent and Longos on the field telling them:

"Ok guys line up and when he snaps the ball... get open. I dont care what routes you run just get open."

And we haven't fired him.


Shunface
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re: NFL Scout weighs in on Ole Miss Offense
Maybe that’s the genius of Luke and Longo that certain people who post here see.

If we don’t know what we’re running how’s the defense gonna know!!



Insideradvantage
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re: NFL Scout weighs in on Ole Miss Offense
Hmm, you do make a good point. I think it's just that we do (did) know, there just wasn't much to it. Too bland, vanilla, basic, etc. etc. etc.

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Maybe that’s the genius of Luke and Longo that certain people who post here see.

If we don’t know what we’re running how’s the defense gonna know!!



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DMagic
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re: NFL Scout weighs in on Ole Miss Offense
I went looking for the thread about Longo getting hired but couldn’t find where a bunch of us had a watch party of his last game at Sam Houston St. The consensus was a resounding meh but we tried being optimistic. However I did find some funny ones from back then.


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I forgot how badly blowing those leads to FSU and Bama scarred our fans
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Blaeke
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Those are gold mines. Lol at McGriff recruiting and it appears everyone's fears about Longo were verified.


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Doresrules
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re: NFL Scout weighs in on Ole Miss Offense
Interesting seeing how so many who now seem to have amnesia we're talking about how Freeze sucked in the Red zone. But when I say we sucked in the red zone even before Longo I'm wrong lol

I said he would recruit and do well with QBs. He has. I said the offense wouldn't have issues scoring, it hasn't.

I said he was a good coach. That is debatable. I still think he is a good coach. I just don't think his scheme works on this level.


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