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re: Arch Manning's stock is falling.

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Posted by charminultra
Member since Jan 2020
2595 posts
Posted on 11/17/21 at 12:15 pm to
He's the son of the least athletic manning.
Posted by TroyTider
Florida Panhandle
Member since Oct 2009
3787 posts
Posted on 11/17/21 at 12:41 pm to
Plunkett also had the best “feel good” story that year. He was raised by two legally blind parents. TLDR, but…


Off the bench






Plunkett kept coming back
By Bob Carter
Special to ESPN.com


"It surprised me that he was able to come back because I thought physically he had been so punished that he couldn't come back - and he certainly did," says Giants general manager Ernie Accorsi about Jim Plunkett on ESPN Classic's SportsCentury series.

Jim Plunkett
Jim Plunkett, playing for Stanford, won the 1970 Heisman Trophy.
Back and forth he swung, the pendulum passer. Rarely did an athlete reach the highs and lows, and highs again, of Jim Plunkett.

Success as a California high school quarterback was followed by an unsteady start in college, a beginning in which his coach almost took the ball from his hands. Then followed three sensational seasons at Stanford, culminating with the 1970 Heisman Trophy.
An outstanding rookie year in the NFL with the New England Patriots preceded numerous injuries and a drift to the ranks of the ordinary. He even spent two seasons on the bench with the Raiders.
And suddenly, from near-oblivion, a rise again to the top as 1981 Super Bowl MVP. "I'm proud of that game," Plunkett said of Oakland's 27-10 victory over Philadelphia. "Many people felt I was washed up, and I wasn't sure they were wrong."
Three years later, Plunkett helped Oakland to another Super Bowl triumph, this one over Washington.

"He has to be one of the great comeback stories of our time," said Raiders owner Al Davis.

Plunkett was born on Dec. 5, 1947, in San Jose, Calif., the youngest of three children. He grew up in Santa Clara before the family sought less-expensive housing in San Jose.

His parents were both blind. His mother, Carmen, was sightless since she was 19 because of typhoid fever. His father, William, was legally blind and worked as a news vendor.

Plunkett delivered newspapers and took odd jobs to earn pocket money but still found time for football. In junior high school, he became a passing quarterback.

Leading James Lick High School in San Jose to an unbeaten season as a senior, he was chosen for a state all-star game and was heavily recruited by colleges. Wanting to stay near home and attend a university with strong academics, Plunkett selected Stanford over California, in part because the radical political environment in Berkeley could be hard on athletes.

Surgery for a benign tumor in his neck in August 1966 slowed him physically and academically during his first year at Stanford. He didn't play well for the freshman team, and when his performance didn't improve the next spring, coach John Ralston suggested a switch to defensive end.

Plunkett, 6-foot-3 and 205 pounds, rejected the idea, and Ralston redshirted him in 1967. The year of practice and no play helped Plunkett. In 1968, he threw for 14 touchdowns and set a Pac-8 record with 2,156 yards passing.

His junior year was even better when he set league records for touchdown passes (20), passing yards (2,673) and total offense (2,786), ranking third nationally in total offense and fifth in passing. "The best college football player I've ever seen," said Washington State coach Jim Sweeney.

Resisting the temptation to turn pro in 1970, Plunkett stayed for his senior season. It was a memorable year as he surpassed many of his league records, passing for 2,715 yards and 18 touchdowns as Stanford went 8-3 and won the Pac-8.

With a career total offense of 7,887 yards, including passing for 7,544, Plunkett set an NCAA record. In the "Year of the Quarterback," he was voted the Heisman Trophy, easily beating out Notre Dame's Joe Theismann and Mississippi's Archie Manning. "When I found out I'd finished second to Jim," said Theismann in 1984, "I was genuinely crushed."

Plunkett, shy and modest, took a different view: "I wanted the Heisman, but my whole life wasn't centered on it."

He then capped his collegiate career by leading Stanford to a 27-17 upset of unbeaten Ohio State in the 1971 Rose Bowl, completing 20-of-30 passes for 265 yards and one touchdown. "They'd never faced a passing team such as ours," he said.



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Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 11/17/21 at 12:43 pm to
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No way this kid is the best high school qb in the country.


Perfect fit for t.u. and their entitled masses.
Posted by GatorOnAnIsland
Florida
Member since Jan 2019
5976 posts
Posted on 11/17/21 at 2:21 pm to
In at 100 down votes to texag7

USA Fan
College Station
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This post was edited on 11/17/21 at 2:23 pm
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/17/21 at 3:34 pm to
quote:

He's the son of the least athletic manning.




shows how clueless you are...Cooper was the most athletic. Wasnt a QB though but a true D1 WR. prolly wasnt sec quality but OM sucked then and was about what they were pulling in at the time.
Posted by C W
Member since Mar 2020
2686 posts
Posted on 11/17/21 at 4:42 pm to
Cooper was the most athletic but wasn’t SEC quality snd Peyton was all pro qb?

Yeah that makes sense.
Posted by Boomer00
Member since Sep 2015
3380 posts
Posted on 11/17/21 at 4:46 pm to
Riley saw it from the beginning. Never even offered the kid. Malachi Nelson will end up being the number 1 player in the country.
This post was edited on 11/17/21 at 4:47 pm
Posted by CedarChest
South of Mejico
Member since Jun 2020
2791 posts
Posted on 11/17/21 at 6:10 pm to
quote:

Archie might have won the Heisman his Sr. year but he got hurt.
Yep, I remember Archie out there against LSU playing with a full cast on his left arm, and giving it his all. LSU was up about 62-17 or some such thing, and Archie still refused to come out of the game. I've had nothing but admiration for him since.
Posted by cmayes56
Alabama
Member since Oct 2015
2852 posts
Posted on 11/17/21 at 7:28 pm to
You either never saw him play, or you're a dumbass..

Possibly both
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
73192 posts
Posted on 11/17/21 at 7:49 pm to
quote:

Extremely overrated. Just like his grandpa



Watching Archie run for his life as the Saints’s qb haunts my childhood. I still see him as a hunted wildebeest.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 11/17/21 at 8:04 pm to
seriously i just had to watch that shite storm against kansas live, Arch can’t save your program, not even Satan couldn’t do that.
Posted by RebFin73
Member since Aug 2018
190 posts
Posted on 11/17/21 at 8:21 pm to
You degrade yourselves by claiming to have a football team.

57-56
Posted by SouthsideMike
Member since Aug 2020
42 posts
Posted on 11/17/21 at 9:25 pm to
Arch moved up to the #1 player in the country by 24/7 today. Watched him play earlier this year and thought he had some talent, but didn’t jump off the screen.
Posted by SaDub225
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2021
870 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 12:02 am to
quote:

Cooper was the most athletic but wasn’t SEC quality snd Peyton was all pro qb? Yeah that makes sense.


Lmao. Shows how much you “know”… dude was most definitely SEC quality, many were talking abt his NFL potential before he even got to college. Dude was going to be ELITE but he got diagnosed with spinal stenosis before ever getting to play a snap in college.
Still, if you ask Peyton and Eli, they both unequivocally refer to Cooper as the most athletic and talented out of them all….
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 8:30 am to
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Archie is the most overrated player in college football history.


Basically any white skill players pre-integration were overrated. Most of the old Boomer Arkansas greats would probably be playing at stAte or UCA these days.

Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
14638 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 8:34 am to
quote:

Basically any white skill players pre-integration were overrated. Most of the old Boomer Arkansas greats would probably be playing at stAte or UCA these days.





It wasn't talent, it was the scheme and the rules of the game at the time. Tua threw in one year what it took 3 years for Joe Namath to accumulate. Joe Willie's arm was second to none.
Posted by TailbackU
ATL
Member since Oct 2005
11152 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 8:37 am to
quote:

Notre Dame's Joe Theismann and Mississippi's Archie Manning. "When I found out I'd finished second to Jim," said Theismann in 1984, "I was genuinely crushed."


well at least Theismann has been consistent.... He's been an arrogant insufferable prick from the time he was born
Posted by RebelExpress38
In your base, killin your dudes
Member since Apr 2012
13597 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 8:39 am to
This thread is hilarious. The kid is like 16 and people have already declared him a bust. He’s definitely getting some extra attention because of his name, but he’s getting 100x as much hate for it.

The good news is that all this hate will be good fuel for him when he gets to college and everyone doubts him. He has the support system to thrive in that environment.
Posted by charminultra
Member since Jan 2020
2595 posts
Posted on 11/19/21 at 11:24 am to
I was making a joke buddy don't take it too personal
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