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re: Who has been the luckiest head football coach in SEC in your lifetime?
Posted on 8/14/18 at 8:12 pm to Hair of the Dog
Posted on 8/14/18 at 8:12 pm to Hair of the Dog
Anyone listing Gus for 2013 is just butthurt. Dude took over a 3-9 team and took them to the fringe of a national championship. Took down JFF and Saban three peat in same season.
My vote goes the Phil Fulmer. Snaked his way into the UT head coaching position much like he did into the AD. Routinely turned in other SEC coaches for immunity for his own violations. Nothing more than a position coach. Also his best season was just one full luckfest.
My vote goes the Phil Fulmer. Snaked his way into the UT head coaching position much like he did into the AD. Routinely turned in other SEC coaches for immunity for his own violations. Nothing more than a position coach. Also his best season was just one full luckfest.
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Posted on 8/14/18 at 8:42 pm to jchamil
Apparently not if your name is Bama.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 9:27 pm to TIGERSPIKE
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Anyone listing Gus for 2013 is just butthurt. Dude took over a 3-9 team and took them to the fringe of a national championship. Took down JFF and Saban three peat in same season.
Exactly. Then turned around and won the SEC West last year.
That is not luck.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 9:33 pm to TIGERSPIKE
That is such a homer take. Fulmer's 1998 season wad a "luckfest" (examples?) but Gus' 2013 wasnt? Give me a break. Gus was beneficiary of some of the flukiest plays of all time.
This post was edited on 8/14/18 at 9:34 pm
Posted on 8/14/18 at 10:03 pm to HailToTheChiz
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So luck equates to you purchasing great players?
Posted on 8/14/18 at 10:37 pm to NDonahue
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Gus was beneficiary of some of the flukiest plays of all time.
Hail Mary was a pure fluke. The Kick 6, however, was by design. Gus called a timeout to put the return team on the field and line up Chris Davis where he was at the back of the endzone. Saban was a dumbass and left all the big boys on the field even after seeing what AU was doing.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 10:48 pm to jledet
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Anyone except Georgia. They are never lucky.
Vince Dooley used up several generations of luck during his tenure at UGA....in the 70s we were constantly winning games we should’ve lost. It does seem as if we’ve been snakebit of late though...
Posted on 8/15/18 at 6:42 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Gene Chizik 100%.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 7:30 am to jledet
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Anyone except Georgia. They are never lucky.
We sold our souls for Herschel.
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Posted on 8/15/18 at 7:42 am to jledet
He's still a man. Guy looks like he could still play. Unbelievable.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 7:45 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Saban. No other coach has had the good fortune to back their way into a championship, and he has done it multiple times.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 7:52 am to germandawg
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Vince Dooley used up several generations of luck during his tenure at UGA....in the 70s we were constantly winning games we should’ve lost. It does seem as if we’ve been snakebit of late though...
I have to admit there is a lot of truth to this. We did seem to come out on top sometimes even when we got outplayed back then. Like you say, he may have used up our allotment of good fortune for awhile.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 7:59 am to HailToTheChiz
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So luck equates to you recruiting great players?
Great job recruiting him out JC after he was KICKED out
of another SEC school
It's the Auburn way
Posted on 8/15/18 at 8:00 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
So in this thread, we've established that every very good to elite coach in the last roughly 40 years is lucky/overrated. Maybe it just takes a certain amount of luck along the way to accomplish great feats in college FB?
Posted on 8/15/18 at 8:05 am to Glorious
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Why is luck needed to overcome a single loss?
Because Bama didn't "play their way" back into the Top 2/4 due to a huge win etc.... it took a team in front losing a game in which they were a 2TD+ favorite. That's luck.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 8:05 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
O. Where else would he be hired as head coach with his resume?
And idiot for an AD who is so dumb he couldn’t hit the floor with his hat.
L7U has a ways to go to get out of this deep ditch.
And idiot for an AD who is so dumb he couldn’t hit the floor with his hat.
L7U has a ways to go to get out of this deep ditch.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 8:16 am to tattoo
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He also had bad luck in missing 1000 FGs vs LSU in 2011 and AU in 2013.
Saban's constant inability to find a decent kicker is not "bad luck"
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He also lost the NC game in 2016 season with 1 sec left.
Again, this is simply getting beat. It's not bad luck. Alabama had something to do with losing all of these games you mention, whether it be missing field goals or simply getting beat by a better team..... Bama had nothing to do with teams in front of them losing to 5-loss opponents which opened the door for them to get back into playoff contention. There's a big difference there.
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Anytime someone does not go undefeated (9 of the last 12 NCs), they needed other P5 teams to lose to make the BCS or playoff.
Again, there is a difference though when a team gets beat by a 1-loss opponent in a Conference Championship Game (example: Ohio State 2013 losing to Michigan State). That's not the same as a Top 2 team losing in November to a 5-loss opponent in which they were a 14+ point favorite. How is this that hard for you to grasp?
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In reality, most teams that go undefeated had some great luck during their own season - see AU 2010.
Teams don't go 14-0 or 15-0 because of luck. Period. Sure they may catch a break here or there, but you don't slide though an entire SEC schedule and a BCS/Playoff Championship on account of luck.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 8:23 am to BHMKyle
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Because Bama didn't "play their way" back into the Top 2/4 due to a huge win etc.... it took a team in front losing a game in which they were a 2TD+ favorite. That's luck.
True.
But it's also true for every other team that has lost a game during the regular season going back to the beginning of the Poll Era.
In regards to Saban and this current run, when you finish the regular season with one or fewer losses every year, you are bound to catch a break or two.
This post was edited on 8/15/18 at 8:26 am
Posted on 8/15/18 at 9:00 am to BHMKyle
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Because Bama didn't "play their way" back into the Top 2/4 due to a huge win etc.... it took a team in front losing a game in which they were a 2TD+ favorite. That's luck.
Beating #3 Georgia in Atlanta in 2012 isn’t a huge win? Going into Death Valley and beating a top-5 LSU team doesn’t count towards playing their way in?
This post was edited on 8/15/18 at 9:03 am
Posted on 8/15/18 at 9:48 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
2007 /thread
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