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why do so many people hate Johnny manziel as a football player?

Posted on 5/2/16 at 4:39 pm
Posted by cincyykid
in a swamp far far away
Member since Mar 2016
1302 posts
Posted on 5/2/16 at 4:39 pm
I get that the guy hasn't done hardly anything in the nfl, and his partying is out of control and probably why he isn't on a roster right now, but to say the guy can't play football is ridiculous. He's never truly had a shot in the NFL, having only started a handful of games and was never allowed to be the day 1 starter in Cleveland for an entire season. He's had some bad performances sure, but plenty of good quarterbacks have struggled when they first entered the league, and he'said had some pretty good games as well, even though he was on a terrible team with a coach that seemed to Want him to fail. You can hate Johnny as a person, but to hate him as a football player is absurd.
This post was edited on 5/2/16 at 4:46 pm
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 5/2/16 at 4:40 pm to
He hit a woman?

Posted by SwaggerVance
Behind enemy lines
Member since Oct 2014
1741 posts
Posted on 5/2/16 at 4:41 pm to
The real question is, "Why does Johnny Manziel hate himself?"
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
71073 posts
Posted on 5/2/16 at 4:41 pm to
I have no opinion on him either way. I'm pretty apathetic towards him. Don't really care what happens to him.
Posted by Patton
Principality of Sealand
Member since Apr 2011
32652 posts
Posted on 5/2/16 at 4:41 pm to
Who are you trying to convince with this thread? Why do you care what people on this board think of him?
Posted by Porcine Human
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Feb 2016
11226 posts
Posted on 5/2/16 at 4:43 pm to
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He's never truly had a shot in the NFL


What does this even mean? Part of the reason he hasn't "had a shot" (which isn't even true really) is because he's fricked up so badly off the field.

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but to hate him as a football player is absurd.


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why do so many people hate Johnny manziel?


Your post isn't clear. The title implies him as a person and/or football player, but then you say something about how it's okay to hate him as a person?
Posted by Porcine Human
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Feb 2016
11226 posts
Posted on 5/2/16 at 4:43 pm to
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This post was edited on 5/2/16 at 4:43 pm
Posted by TexasAg13
San Antonio de Béxar
Member since Jul 2013
5815 posts
Posted on 5/2/16 at 4:43 pm to
Because he's the best SEC QB of all time and people are naturally jealous.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36485 posts
Posted on 5/2/16 at 4:43 pm to
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You can hate Johnny as a person,


thanks, we do


seriously though, he has a ton of talent but he's pissing it away and will end up dying broke sooner than later at this rate. Johnny as a person cant be separate from Johnny as a football player.
This post was edited on 5/2/16 at 4:45 pm
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
37666 posts
Posted on 5/2/16 at 4:43 pm to
Because he does what he wants
Posted by ForeverLSU02
Albany
Member since Jun 2007
52188 posts
Posted on 5/2/16 at 4:44 pm to
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why do so many people hate Johnny manziel?

Because he is a douchebag who doesn't know how to carry himself on & off the field. Similar to Cam Newton.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30319 posts
Posted on 5/2/16 at 4:44 pm to
Johnny hates himself more than anyone else could possibly hate him.

It's really a sad situation.
Posted by jcolding41
Member since Sep 2015
5694 posts
Posted on 5/2/16 at 4:44 pm to
He's had a hell of a shot in the NFL. Just because he wasn't the starter doesn't mean he was treated badly, the Browns gave him MANY chances to straighten up because they wanted him.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
48575 posts
Posted on 5/2/16 at 4:45 pm to
I think a lot of ppl were pulling for him when he started out. He's a very entertaining player. And the I don't give a damn attitude the neglect for his profession and the domestic violence has made a lot of those ppl angry. When you hope for a kid and he does the things Johnny does it's a little bit of a heartbreak situation and that leaves ppl extra bitter. I really think the kid is walking a dangerous path and fear for his safety. I hope he gets his life together because losing a young person is always tragic.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
45251 posts
Posted on 5/2/16 at 4:45 pm to
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He's had some bad performances sure


This is a gross understatement. He looked flat out lost on the field a lot of the time.

Make no mistake, the Browns desperately wanted this to work. Manziel just didn't put in the effort needed to be a QB in the NFL. I'll never forget the story about him showing up to the 2014 Indianapolis game shortly after noon for a 1pm kickoff. At the time, Hoyer was clinging to the starting job by a thread (and would have probably lost it if Manziel showed he wanted it in any way) and that was a game in which Manziel absolutely could have played in if he gave a damn.
This post was edited on 5/2/16 at 4:48 pm
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 5/2/16 at 4:46 pm to
The same reason why people hate Cam Newton and any other athlete that has experienced hardship in their personal life. People in this world are miserable, and they love to be able to point to talented or successful people and mock them. It makes them feel better about their own miserable existence.

Johnny has a problem. He needs help, not mockery.
Posted by tigergurl67
Memphis
Member since Apr 2013
53 posts
Posted on 5/2/16 at 4:52 pm to
Because he has always been tacky on and off the field. Unsportsmanlike. Pretty much any other position on the team can get away with that, but the quarterback is supposed to be the team leader and carry himself with more class. No way I would put my business (NFL team) is this guy's hands.
Posted by remaster916
Alabama
Member since Oct 2012
12236 posts
Posted on 5/2/16 at 4:53 pm to
I liked watching JM play in college as long as he wasn't playing Bama. He was a hell of a player, just let it go to his head.
Posted by Warfarer
Dothan, AL
Member since May 2010
12145 posts
Posted on 5/2/16 at 5:01 pm to
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I get that the guy hasn't done hardly anything in the nfl, and his partying is out of control and probably why he isn't on a roster right now, but to say the guy can't play football is ridiculous. He's never truly had a shot in the NFL, having only started a handful of games and was never allowed to be the day 1 starter in Cleveland for an entire season. He's had some bad performances sure, but plenty of good quarterbacks have struggled when they first entered the league, and he'said had some pretty good games as well, even though he was on a terrible team with a coach that seemed to Want him to fail. You can hate Johnny as a person, but to hate him as a football player is absurd.



to tell you the truth I respect him more as a guy than a football player. As a guy, he does what 90% of guys in his position of pulling any tail he wants, has money and fame would do.

As a football player, I'm not sure I have ever seen a guy better at extending a play as he was but as a quarterback he was a joke. I didn't watch him week in and week out so I might be off base a lot but Mike Evans and Swope bailed him out A LOT for what I saw. There were a lot of piss poor decisions that he made on the field that got caught do to his receivers being that good.
Posted by MSU5
Memphis
Member since Aug 2011
3411 posts
Posted on 5/2/16 at 5:05 pm to
Undersized, below average arm strength, poor work ethic..
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