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re: Jake Holland award AKA worst starter on your team

Posted on 8/3/15 at 4:16 pm to
Posted by TigerBait1971
PTC GA
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Posted on 8/3/15 at 4:16 pm to
Holy shite....that's horrible.
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
25494 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 4:18 pm to
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Actually last year Reese Dismukes nut sack won the award.
Posted by Team Vote
DFW
Member since Aug 2014
7737 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 4:18 pm to
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Tornado Alley


In a shocking turn of events, TA was secretly DJ Welter all along!

Don't let them say mean things about you buddy

Seriously, Welter was our Jake Holland. Jennings was bad, but the defense actually played much better after Welter was benched.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26639 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 4:18 pm to
Ryan Baker started 13/14 games.
Stefan Francois started 10/14.
Kevin Minter started 11/14 games.

Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68648 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 4:18 pm to
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Again, I'm not saying Welter was even above average. I'm merely stating that he was not as bad as y'all want him made out to be, certainly not the worst player on the LSU squad in 2014.



I'd put him right down there with Jennings. He was absolutely miserable. Easily the worst LB at LSU I can remember, but somehow he kept playing for some weird reason.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
62147 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 4:19 pm to
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I'll go with Adam Griffith


I love that kid


Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68648 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 4:19 pm to
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Yeah, because two people split time there. Guess how many solo tackles they had together? 44. Again, I actually watch the games so I'm at a distinct advantage in this argument. Just trust me.


Seriously, it was painful watching Welter the last 2 years. One of those players when in isolation to make a play you just knew he wouldn't.
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 8/3/15 at 4:21 pm to
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Ryan Baker started 13/14 games.
Stefan Francois started 10/14.
Kevin Minter started 11/14 games.


Minter was splitting snaps that year, hence why he only started 11 of the 14 games, and probably only got about 60% of snaps each game.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25346 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 4:21 pm to
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Ryan Baker started 13/14 games.
Stefan Francois started 10/14.
Kevin Minter started 11/14 games.


You are dutifully reproducing the participation report, but the problem is Les during his tenure has repeatedly announced players as starters and they hardly played, or in some cases like Ryan Baker's, they didn't play, yet still appeared on the participation report. I'm not sure what the point of doing that is, but he is very strange about it.

This is a good time to point out that Baker and Minter both played MLB. Lamin Barrow playes ROLB.
This post was edited on 8/3/15 at 4:25 pm
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 8/3/15 at 4:24 pm to
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This is a good time to point out that Baker and Minter both played MLB.


It was actually Karnell Hatcher and Kevin Minter at MLB in 2011.

Yes, Chavis still had a slight hard on for Karnell Hatcher, for whatever reason...and didn't let Minter really take the reigns till later in the season.
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 8/3/15 at 4:27 pm to
Our Punter whoever it might be...
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25346 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 4:27 pm to
You are right. Minter played in many different configurations that year. Given that we played mostly nickel all year because you don't ever sit the badger, it wasn't always easy to tell who was the "middle" linebacker. The point is the production out of the mlb spot, no matter how you want to slice it, was about 40-50% higher than what Welter gave, which is consistent during the Chief's tenure here.
This post was edited on 8/3/15 at 4:29 pm
Posted by Tigers of War
Ewor
Member since Aug 2013
1340 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 4:27 pm to
He did a solid job while at AU. He started as a true freshman since he was at AU (minus injury). If I recall without looking it up.

Hate that he screwed up so bad his last year but he will be missed IMO
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68648 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 4:30 pm to
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You are right. Minter played in many different configurations that year. Given that we played mostly nickel all year because you don't ever sit the badger, the point is the production out of the mlb spot was about 40-50% higher than what Welter gave, which is consistent during the Chief's tenure here.



And what he didn't point out was Welter started and played just about every damn snap in 2013, he basically didn't have a backup. Beckwith was on the DL. I think maybe Louis and Feist got a couple quick looks at MLb that year and then it was like nooooooo

That's what makes Welter's performance that year all the more miserable. He was out there just about every defensive snap.
This post was edited on 8/3/15 at 4:32 pm
Posted by Robert Goulet
Member since Jan 2013
9999 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 4:33 pm to
If Coleman Thomas starts on the OL, then him.
Posted by The Breeze
Member since Jul 2015
66 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 4:34 pm to
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This year i will go with Gimel President. Got a feeling i will cringe every time he steps on the field


No way in hell President starts.

Picking the worst starter for AU this year is a rich man's problem. Auburn's starting lineup is strong all the way around. First time I can remember feeling confident about every single starter.

But if I had to choose, I guess I'd pick Rudy Ford. Despite leading the team in tackles I don't think he's a "complete" safety. He needs some work in coverage, and he only got so many tackles last year because he was the last guy to beat.

*honorable mention: whoever gets the second DT spot.
Posted by IAmReality
Member since Oct 2012
12229 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 4:35 pm to
Should be the Chris Capps award, now and forever.

You could have put a 300 lb bag of rocks at his position and it would have been an improvement.
Posted by finestfirst79
Vicksburg, Mississippi
Member since Nov 2012
11646 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 4:42 pm to
Do kickers count? If so Taylor Bertolet has this award locked up.

If kickers don't count, then Masterag already pointed out the guy we love to hate on. Here's Mr. Harris saying hello to Mr. Coates:
Posted by Projectpat
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
10522 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 4:44 pm to
Ugh, I had forgotten about that play...
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60308 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 4:46 pm to
Nm
This post was edited on 8/3/15 at 4:48 pm
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