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re: Rumor: Jimmy Haslam will offer Saban the Brown's Job

Posted on 10/18/12 at 9:12 am to
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89630 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 9:12 am to
quote:

Mike and Mike (Cowherd was filling in) seemed to suggest Saban to Dallas.


Look ya'll this is classic Sexton/Saban - who knows what his actual intent is - even if he compeletely plans to stay in Bama, he needs to know what the market is. Texas has an "idea", of what they would like to pay, if they have a vacancy, and I believe that Saban's number is ~$100m for 10 years - that doesn't mean that is his number for Bama or his number for an NFL team. The Texas number is one of the "good" things, and he's accounting for the bad.

Cleveland may just be to get a floor from which to deal with Dallas - so that Jones knows he's not the "only" game in town. Jones won't try to go cheap, because this is, really his last big chance. I personally don't think it will happen because of egos clashing, but Sexton will get whatever that number is - Bama won't be expected to counter it, necessarily, but they will be expected to sweeten the pot.

He did it every year at LSU. He's doing it, virtually, every year at Bama.
This post was edited on 10/18/12 at 9:13 am
Posted by jatebe
Queen of Links
Member since Oct 2008
18284 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 9:15 am to
quote:

Coach Bryant was the GOAT, no doubt.
Actually Alabama was pretty good against LSU before Coach Bryant.

Before Coach Bryant
UA 15
LSU 7
Tie 4

Coach Bryant's years
UA 16
LSU 4

After the Coach Bryant years
UA 15
LSU 14
Tie 1


Since Coach Saban became UA coach
UA 3
LSU 3
Series is tied
Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
37269 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 9:22 am to
quote:

Look ya'll this is classic Sexton/Saban - who knows what his actual intent is - even if he compeletely plans to stay in Bama, he needs to know what the market is. Texas has an "idea", of what they would like to pay, if they have a vacancy, and I believe that Saban's number is ~$100m for 10 years - that doesn't mean that is his number for Bama or his number for an NFL team. The Texas number is one of the "good" things, and he's accounting for the bad.

Cleveland may just be to get a floor from which to deal with Dallas - so that Jones knows he's not the "only" game in town. Jones won't try to go cheap, because this is, really his last big chance. I personally don't think it will happen because of egos clashing, but Sexton will get whatever that number is - Bama won't be expected to counter it, necessarily, but they will be expected to sweeten the pot.

He did it every year at LSU. He's doing it, virtually, every year at Bama.


Check out this guy. I bet you thought the plains were actually burning as well, huh?
Posted by ChoadieMcSmalls
Look behind you
Member since Jul 2012
1695 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 9:30 am to
quote:

Since Coach Saban became UA coach
UA 3
LSU 3
Series is tied


and the first year was expected. new coach with a completely different philosophy and gameplan taking over a program full of recruits that were taught by someone else. I'm not saying 2007 doesn't count, obviously it does on paper.

However anyone with half a brain knows that was a gimme year for LSU. Hell, Bama lost to La Monroe that year. Once you look at the context of 2007, it is not really worth bragging about or including it in the Miles/Saban debate about records.

Posted by Jumbeauxlaya
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
18083 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 9:31 am to
quote:

As a Browns fan I think its a terrible move, but Im not worried about it actually happening.



Damn, if that happened I would ALMOST feel sorry for you, you'd still have Saban as a coach but the move would simultaneously hurt both of your teams
Posted by UPT
NOLA
Member since May 2009
5513 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 9:44 am to
quote:

Look ya'll this is classic Sexton/Saban - who knows what his actual intent is - even if he compeletely plans to stay in Bama, he needs to know what the market is. Texas has an "idea", of what they would like to pay, if they have a vacancy, and I believe that Saban's number is ~$100m for 10 years - that doesn't mean that is his number for Bama or his number for an NFL team. The Texas number is one of the "good" things, and he's accounting for the bad.

Cleveland may just be to get a floor from which to deal with Dallas - so that Jones knows he's not the "only" game in town. Jones won't try to go cheap, because this is, really his last big chance. I personally don't think it will happen because of egos clashing, but Sexton will get whatever that number is - Bama won't be expected to counter it, necessarily, but they will be expected to sweeten the pot.

He did it every year at LSU. He's doing it, virtually, every year at Bama.




Look for the Saban Biography to hit shelves soon, written under the alias "Ace Midnight."

Critics who have had a glance at the book have commented that Mr. Midnight seems to read Nick Saban's mind, thoughts, and ambitions. Pretty spooky stuff.
Posted by Iconoclastic
Member since Oct 2012
64 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 9:51 am to
Saban has a martinet-type coaching philosophy that doesn't work with professional football players in the 21st century. Haslam should be made aware of that.
Posted by Crimson Legend
Mount St Gumpus
Member since Nov 2004
15478 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 9:54 am to
It's funny how these conversations all just assume that NFL teams see Saban as the same value as college programs. We know what Nick Saban can do with a major college program.

I don't think you can look at Miami and draw too many conclusions about Nick Saban as an NFL coach, but by the same token, he's simply not as proven a commodity on the professional level, and there's good reason to think his success at the college level does not completely translate.

All that being said, the NFL is known for throwing money at the big name of the moment, regardless of logic...
Posted by Master of Sinanju
Member since Feb 2012
11368 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 9:57 am to
Saban would be a perfect fit for Cleveland. That franchise claims a lot of championships it never won, too.

Posted by Crimson Legend
Mount St Gumpus
Member since Nov 2004
15478 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 10:06 am to
I would take out 1941. Just let me know which of the other AWARDED AND RECOGNIZED championships you'd like us to remove so that your inferiority complex isn't quite so anally sore.
Posted by Tide Life
30-A
Member since Jul 2012
78 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 12:33 pm to
quote:

"It was not an official report from our station," said J.G. Spooner, host of 92.3's Saturday morning show that many claimed had reported the Saban rumor.Spooner debunked the claims in an interview with Birmingham station 97.3 The Zone.


Proof

There. Whew. All a bad dream. Nothing else to see here. Put to bed. Nipped in bud. And they all lived happpily ever after. Amen.
Posted by 10888bge
H-Town
Member since Aug 2011
8421 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 12:43 pm to
quote:

and the first year was expected. new coach with a completely different philosophy and gameplan taking over a program full of recruits that were taught by someone else. I'm not saying 2007 doesn't count, obviously it does on paper. However anyone with half a brain knows that was a gimme year for LSU. Hell, Bama lost to La Monroe that year. Once you look at the context of 2007, it is not really worth bragging about or including it in the Miles/Saban debate about records.

Wait wait wait a sec. Are you saying Saban couldn't win with someone else's players? :runningoutsideforapocalypse:
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89630 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 12:56 pm to
quote:

There. Whew. All a bad dream. Nothing else to see here. Put to bed. Nipped in bud. And they all lived happpily ever after. Amen.


[Somewhere Jimmy Sexton, with a wide maniacal grin, taps his fingertips together, greedily, and cackles, "Dance, puppets! Dance!"]
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72256 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 1:19 pm to
You must be Jimmy Sexton. You seem to know more than those close to Mal Moore.
Posted by NYCAuburn
TD Platinum Membership/SECr Sheriff
Member since Feb 2011
57002 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 1:24 pm to
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Nothing else to see here. Put to bed. Nipped in bud


Did you even read the link? or just the title?

Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
19376 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 2:06 pm to
Nice comment bout J.Sexton. He's a pro at getting his clients' names out there, NFL or NCAA. He sniffs what the interest may be, gets a ball park idea of what mite be offered, confers with his clients, leaks it to the press as a rumor, and the next thing you know his clients get raises. He & Nicky are the perfect match at using the media to forward their best interests.
Posted by Tide Life
30-A
Member since Jul 2012
78 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 2:09 pm to
quote:

Did you even read the link? or just the title?


There was a link?
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89630 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 2:12 pm to
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You must be Jimmy Sexton. You seem to know more than those close to Mal Moore.


Moore knows about the Texas interest, as well as the Cowboys and, now, the Browns. Your guy is actually a pretty smart, reasonable man. So is Skip Bertman. We were in the same position at the end of 2004 - there was no way we were going to outbid the Dolphins - after coming in EVERY YEAR with these offers, our guys finally said, "Good luck, Nick. We wish you the best."

Eventually, your guys will, too. Bama can outbid most other schools, but Texas is on the extremely short list of those they can't. If nothing else, Jimmy/Nick will hit the absolute ceiling of what Bama is willing to pay. If he stays, ya'll will probably be happy to live with that.

BUT, if you pretend this "process" isn't happening, in real time, right now, you do so at your own peril.
This post was edited on 10/18/12 at 2:13 pm
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30274 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 2:41 pm to
quote:

Moore knows about the Texas interest, as well as the Cowboys and, now, the Browns. Your guy is actually a pretty smart, reasonable man. So is Skip Bertman. We were in the same position at the end of 2004 - there was no way we were going to outbid the Dolphins - after coming in EVERY YEAR with these offers, our guys finally said, "Good luck, Nick. We wish you the best."

Eventually, your guys will, too. Bama can outbid most other schools, but Texas is on the extremely short list of those they can't. If nothing else, Jimmy/Nick will hit the absolute ceiling of what Bama is willing to pay. If he stays, ya'll will probably be happy to live with that.

BUT, if you pretend this "process" isn't happening, in real time, right now, you do so at your own peril.
I have no doubt it's happening. Sexton is the best, Saban is the best, why wouldn't it happen every year?

I have feeling the PTB at Bama know that this shite comes with having one of the best coaches in the country. Since Saban's been at Bama, they've seen revenues jump from $67mm/yr in '06 to $124mm/yr in '11. This yearly shoppin Sexton does with Saban is just the price of doing buisness. And, as long at the PTB at Bama want to feed the beast to get him to stay at Bama, then they will deal with it.
This post was edited on 10/18/12 at 2:43 pm
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
19092 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 2:47 pm to
Petrino to Bama ......... book it!
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