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Are there any here? They 'd average around 80 years old now.

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I don't want to quibble about "average"(mean) and median and, certainly, that was a long war for the U.S. (heavily involved from 1965 to 1973, with the peak years (~500k) being '67 - '69 (giggity) of LBJ's buildup, before the Nixon drawdown.

So having said that - the average 20-yo being born between 1947 and 1949 satisfying that, I would say the "typical" age of a Vietnam vet should be 77 to 79 today. Obviously, folks got in younger (18 or even younger if volunteering) and there were regular army folks and vets of WWII and Korea in more senior positions (at a much smaller number, by head of course). Just as the early war experience would have had earlier birth years, the early 50s kids in country at the end likely washes that out.

So, you're not strictly wrong when you say "average around 80", but it might overstate how old they are by the slightest of exaggerations.

Sort of like Richard Libertini.

And they even resembled each other (although Libertini was older).

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Imagine telling your ancestors that we were going to import millions of illiterate third worlders so democrats could maintain a viable voting base

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Go ahead and finish the thought, NIH -

"...because they murdered so many black and brown babies in the womb in the 70s and 80s, their native demographics collapsed."

I was almost a decade late for Tool. Arguably my favorite band now.

#Spiraloutkeepgoing

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How many Mosques were firebombed?

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None. People get killed behind that shite.

So-called "Christians" turn the other cheek and die meekly. Muslims? Say what you want, but they're passionate in defense of their "faith" - even today, 14 centuries later.

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Isn’t Neal Schon the only original member left?

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Yes, but that isn't relevant. Steve Perry isn't an original member just as Bruce Dickinson isn't an original member of Iron Maiden.

For many bands lineup changes are either: prior to hitting it big, while hitting it big or well after. For Journey it was "in the middle" so classic/authentic lineups are more tricky.

Journey (effectively a "sequel" of sorts to Santana - Schon and Rolie, with Carlos' encouragement, formed Journey as they were leaving Santana) didn't really hit it big until Infinity (1978) which almost made it to the Top 50 albums, and their first Top 100 hit - Wheel in the Sky. Prior to that, Next, had gotten into the Top 100 albums, but only to 85 and of the 4 singles from the first 3 albums, none had charted at all.

So, by the time of Infinity, they had a couple of personnel changes already, but the "core four" of the early Journey (the recording era, the first 3 albums) were Rolie (keys, vocals), Schon (lead guitar), Valory (bass), Dunbar (drums) and the key addition for Infinity was Steve Perry (vocals) in his first album with them. With now 2 lead vocalists, Journey recorded only 1 album with that lineup (Infinity) and had changed out Dunbar for Steve Smith by the time of Evolution. So, this Evolution lineup lasted a total of 3 albums (Evolution, Departure and Captured).

After Captured, Rolie departed and was replaced by Babys keyboardist Jonathan Cain for Escape and that was the lineup for the "monster" era of Journey - Escape and Frontiers. The rhythm section was fired for Raised on Radio and sidemen (including Randy "Dawg" Jackson, as well as legendary session man Bob Glaub on bass and fired drummer Steve Smith) played the rest of the parts on the album.

Journey would be on hiatus for 9 years until Trial By Fire which was the last roundup of the Escape/Frontiers lineup. The "Who TF can possibly replace Steve Perry" era began in the late 1990s.

An "authentic" Journey lineup would have to have Neal Schon, frankly. Next, one would need either Rolie or Cain on keys. (So they have that presently). I think it would have to include Ross Valory on Bass. I think it would have to have either Steve Smith or perhaps Anysley Dunbar on drums (although Castronovo has had long stints in the band and is likely acceptable to all but purists). If you are generous, give them 1/2 on the current rhythm section - and Castronovo is a great second lead vocalist. (Recall Bad English - which was effectively 3 Babys - Waite, Phillips and Cain, 2 Journeys, Cain and Schon and 1 future Journey, Castronovo).

The lead vocalist is the thing. If they're doing material from the late 70s through mid 80s (which is all their fans want to hear) without Steve Perry, it is a step away from goodness. The Philipino kid is great, however, IMHO.

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The reality that you are an a-hole?

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Frankly, there's a good chance that you are, too. I know I am.

#Mostpeopleareassholes

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Chet Atkins is the name you're looking for. And he's not underrated at all.

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My favorite thing about Chet Atkins is that you can go back and watch his old videos and realize he was sweep picking before that was "invented". :lol: