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If rematches are supposedly unfair...

Posted on 12/4/11 at 4:00 pm
Posted by BamaGround
Member since Dec 2010
551 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 4:00 pm
then why bother having the SEC Championship if it is a rematch of a regular season game? We all know the real answer is to squeeze every last dollar the SEC can out of TV and fan bases but it seems rather amusing by those opposed to a rematch to say the 2nd best team in the country shouldn't play in the BCS because they lost to the #1 team during the season and are from the same conference so therefore Bama shouldn't get a shot at the BCS. It may seem unfair to LSU since they already beat Bama but if Alabama is really the 2nd best team in the country then how is it fair to Bama to deny them a ticket to the game?

Since 1999 5 SEC Championship games have been a rematch of a regular season game. In all 5 rematches the team that won in the regular season won again in the rematch. Still the winning team had to go out and win again against the team they had already beaten in order to secure an SEC championship.

Personally I believe it really doesn't matter who LSU plays. I don't see anyone beating them. They could play OSU and Bama back to back in the same night and beat both of them. LSU is that good and the scary thing is they are a young team. Wouldn't be surprised to see back to back to back BCS titles for the tigers.
Posted by NorthshoreTiger76
Pelicans, Saints, & LSU Fan
Member since May 2009
80273 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 4:01 pm to
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Since 1999 5 SEC Championship games have been a rematch of a regular season game. In all 5 rematches the team that won in the regular season won again in the rematch.




2001 SEC Championship says otherwise
Posted by JasonMason
Memphis
Member since Jun 2009
4676 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 4:02 pm to
I think there is a difference between conference champs and national champs.
Posted by tigerfan182
Franklin, Tn
Member since Sep 2009
2779 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 4:03 pm to
The format for the championship game is laid out in the SEC rules whereas what we have now is totally subjective. Not necessarily unfair but subjective.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62636 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 4:03 pm to
I agree, but this is like the second SEC title game. How many SEC teams do you have to beat?? Does the regular season, and SEC Championship mean anything? Really?
Posted by RBWilliams8
Member since Oct 2009
53419 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 4:05 pm to
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then why bother having the SEC Championship if it is a rematch of a regular season game?


We didn't play a rematch this year. So I stopped reading there.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41256 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 4:06 pm to
Only losers want a rematch.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 4:08 pm to
I dont know brah I think its just a shitty thing to do. LSU deserves better and the rest of the country deserves better. But lets by all means accomodate bama at everyone elses expense. I know this I would hate to be in bamas shoes come jan 9.
Posted by SteveLSU35
Shreveport
Member since Mar 2004
13992 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 4:08 pm to
i don't think it's unfair.
Posted by GeauxTigers0107
South Louisiana
Member since Oct 2009
9786 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 4:10 pm to
The only way to avoid rematches is to not have teams from each side of the SEC play during the season. That way when the Conference Championship comes around, you truly have a best vs best matchup. With the new realignment coming (adding Mizzou and aTm) things will get shaken up a bit I'm sure, but not to the extent that we don't have teams from the Best...I mean...West, playing teams from the Least...I mean...East.

It was just a unique situation (not totally unique, but you get my drift) this year with Bama and LSU being head and shoulders better than the rest. We didn't have that one heartbreaking loss (I'm looking at you Bama) that derails our chances to make it to the MNC.

That being said, search my post history and you'll see that I've said all along I want Bama in NOLA because the only thing better than beating yall once is doing it TWICE in the same season.


Posted by Bunta
Member since Oct 2007
12271 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 4:11 pm to
Comparing a national championship to conference championship setup = complete retard.
Posted by SabanIsAGod
Jackson
Member since Oct 2009
3880 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 4:11 pm to
In 1959 LSU had to rematch with a superior Ole Miss team they beat 7-3 on the Cannon run. Ole Miss beat LSU 21-0 in the Sugar Bowl.
Posted by LSU40
Vicksburge, MS
Member since Oct 2007
2253 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 4:15 pm to
Thing is you were not in the SECCG for a rematch because you had already been eliminated by LSU. See Bama didn't win their divison, thus you were not in the game.
The only way a rematch happens in the SECCG is if
both division winners had played in the regular season......
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51933 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 4:19 pm to
The very concept of a conference championship to give a title is based on a fallacy.



The Pac-10 had the absolute best system for handing out a title.
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
24845 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 4:23 pm to
Rematches aren't unfair, not winning your conference, playing a weaker schedule, shitting the bed at home, and getting the nod is unfair.

You will lose then you can beg for 3 out of 5.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56819 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 4:23 pm to
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then why bother having the SEC Championship if it is a rematch of a regular season game? We all know the real answer is to squeeze every last dollar the SEC can out of TV and fan bases but it seems rather amusing by those opposed to a rematch to say the 2nd best team in the country shouldn't play in the BCS because they lost to the #1 team during the season and are from the same conference so therefore Bama shouldn't get a shot at the BCS. It may seem unfair to LSU since they already beat Bama but if Alabama is really the 2nd best team in the country then how is it fair to Bama to deny them a ticket to the game?

Since 1999 5 SEC Championship games have been a rematch of a regular season game. In all 5 rematches the team that won in the regular season won again in the rematch. Still the winning team had to go out and win again against the team they had already beaten in order to secure an SEC championship.

Personally I believe it really doesn't matter who LSU plays. I don't see anyone beating them. They could play OSU and Bama back to back in the same night and beat both of them. LSU is that good and the scary thing is they are a young team. Wouldn't be surprised to see back to back to back BCS titles for the tigers.



The SEC Championship selection process is an OBJECTIVE method.

The BCS Championship selection process is in very large part SUBJECTIVE.

Comparing the two is asinine.

Posted by HeadyMurphey
Los Santos
Member since Jan 2008
17194 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 4:35 pm to
How is it fair to have the #2 team get an extra week to rest? How is it fair to have a team in the NC game that did not win their conference?
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76639 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 4:48 pm to
If rematches in the BCS title game are just fine, then why did we play on Nov 5? Both teams shouldve just taken the day off, since both were already ranked top 2.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53798 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 4:48 pm to
quote:

then why bother having the SEC Championship if it is a rematch of a regular season game? We all know the real answer is to squeeze every last dollar the SEC can out of TV and fan bases but it seems rather amusing by those opposed to a rematch to say the 2nd best team in the country shouldn't play in the BCS because they lost to the #1 team during the season and are from the same conference so therefore Bama shouldn't get a shot at the BCS. It may seem unfair to LSU since they already beat Bama but if Alabama is really the 2nd best team in the country then how is it fair to Bama to deny them a ticket to the game?

Since 1999 5 SEC Championship games have been a rematch of a regular season game. In all 5 rematches the team that won in the regular season won again in the rematch. Still the winning team had to go out and win again against the team they had already beaten in order to secure an SEC championship.

Personally I believe it really doesn't matter who LSU plays. I don't see anyone beating them. They could play OSU and Bama back to back in the same night and beat both of them. LSU is that good and the scary thing is they are a young team. Wouldn't be surprised to see back to back to back BCS titles for the tigers.


The SEC champ game is designed to determine a champion from the conference because not eveyone can play each other, so we have division winners...then they advance, right?

some years two team play each other twice.... I would have no problem facing Alabama again if they were in the East...A possible rematch would be a reality before the first snap of each season...but for the National Championship? Wut? that's whack!

After the SECCG these team go to different bowls!

What part of this is so difficult for Bama fans to understand?

This is a complete mess

Posted by TDlurker
Member since Oct 2007
688 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 4:54 pm to
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then why bother having the SEC Championship if it is a rematch of a regular season game?
The conf. is divided into two divisions. All teams within a division play each other. Best team advances to the Championship game. This is a playoff structure. Within a playoff structure, rematches make sense.

The BCS IS NOT a playoff structure. The ONLY goal of the BCS (as it pertains to the MNC) is to increase the LIKLYHOOD that the MNC would be determined on the field of play. This is why a rematch makes ABSOLUTELY ZERO sense within the BCS structure.
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