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Harris Voter vows to move OSU to #2 with win over OU

Posted on 11/30/11 at 2:54 pm
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 11/30/11 at 2:54 pm
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From the Bird’s Nest: The Case for Oklahoma State
by: Jay Walker

There’s another weekend of college football to be played, although, if you listen to any national sports show, you wouldn’t know it.

It’s a done deal, they say. Alabama and LSU will play for the BCS Championship at the Mercedes-Benz Superdome on January 9th.

Never mind the fact LSU still has a game to play. Even if they lose, they’re in, say the pundits.

And, never mind Alabama didn’t win the SEC….or the SEC West for that matter.

Nope. Don’t even play the games this week. As Dennis Green once said, “You want to crown ‘em..crown ‘em.”

There’s only one flaw among opinions of the Edwardses, Brandos and the like.

Oklahoma State.

Inexplicably, OSU is currently fifth in the USA Today and Harris Polls. Voters have been accused of manipulating the rankings in the past. But no one is questioning them this year. Curious, to say the least.

The reality is, if Oklahoma State defeats OU this Saturday in the Bedlam game in Stillwater, the Cowboys deserve to be in New Orleans.

Here are three reasons why:

1.STRENGTH OF CONFERENCE—All season long, it’s been the Big XII, not the SEC, that has been the top rated conference. The Big XII has had eight of their ten teams ranked in the Top 25 at some point in time. And remember the SEC’s ranking is based in part on the strength of Georgia and South Carolina….two teams that Alabama did not play. I don’t see how the voters can justify leaving out the champion of the strongest conference in favor of a team that didn’t win its division.

2.BODY OF WORK—Let’s check the resumes of the two teams. Alabama has beaten two teams currently ranked in the BCS Top 25. Oklahoma State has beaten five, and with a win this week, the number reaches six. Oklahoma State, with a win this week, will have beaten eight bowl-eligible teams. Alabama will have beaten six. One of Alabama’s wins is against an FCS opponent. Oklahoma State played a total FBS schedule. Alabama lost a game at home (albeit to a great team.) OSU’s loss came on the road in double overtime in a game where they turned it over five times. And OSU is ranked fifth in the human polls? Give me a break.

3.OPINION VS FACT—It is the opinion of many that Alabama is the second best team in the nation. And, that might be true. But, at the end of the day, it’s an opinion. It is the opinion of many that Alabama would give LSU a better game than Oklahoma State. And, that might be true. But, at the end of the day, it’s an opinion. But now let’s look at facts. FACT: LSU has not beaten Oklahoma State. FACT: LSU has beaten Alabama.

4.PRECEDENT—Back in 2003, Oklahoma was thought to have perhaps the best college football team ever. Then they lost to Kansas State in the Big XII title game. They still got to play for the BCS championship and the outcry was so great it caused a re-tooling of the BCS formula. How can you possibly play for the championship if you don’t win your conference? That’s what virtually everyone said. In 2006, Michigan and Ohio State, both undefeated and ranked 1-2, played for the Big Ten title. OSU won, narrowly. No rematches, everyone screamed and voted Florida ahead of Michigan. We don’t know if OSU can beat Florida, the pundits said, but they’ve already beaten Michigan……hmmmmm. In 2007, a wacky one to say the least, a one-loss Georgia team was right in the hunt to play for the title. But the voters suddenly dropped Georgia a few slots in the polls on the next to last weekend. Why? They weren’t playing for the SEC title. And, how can you play for the BCS championship when you couldn’t even win your division? A two-loss LSU team, who lost their final regular season game, got to play for the title. They were, after all, a conference champion.

As a Harris poll voter, I’ll say it publicly now. If Oklahoma State defeats Oklahoma this week, I’ll vote them second in my poll. I have four good reasons why.

I have stated weeks ago I really don’t want to see a rematch. But, I’m putting personal feelings aside here and looking at facts.

I wonder if the other voters in the Harris and USA Today polls are doing the same.





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Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
30387 posts
Posted on 11/30/11 at 2:55 pm to
tip of the iceberg
Posted by Silverback
Gumpin' ain't easy
Member since Aug 2011
4308 posts
Posted on 11/30/11 at 2:56 pm to
No bias there...solid journalistic credentials.
Posted by BigAppleTiger
New York City
Member since Dec 2008
10391 posts
Posted on 11/30/11 at 2:57 pm to
If OSU wins this week, they have a legitimate argument to play in the BCS Championship. Bama will only have a legitimate argument if OSU loses.
Posted by TulaneTigerFan
Seattle
Member since Sep 2005
35856 posts
Posted on 11/30/11 at 2:57 pm to
Is this the same one who already posted that he'd strongly consider moving OSU above Alabama?
Posted by Lee County Tiger
I Haz Sources
Member since Oct 2009
33354 posts
Posted on 11/30/11 at 2:57 pm to
THE FIX IS IN
Posted by baytiger
Boston
Member since Dec 2007
46978 posts
Posted on 11/30/11 at 2:58 pm to
the backlash is just starting. Oklahoma State wins and they're in, much to Bama's chagrin.


The voters must be afraid of Alabama.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 11/30/11 at 2:58 pm to
I will have no problem with OSU making it in. It'll just show how weak that conference really is. The Sugar Bowl would be sufficient for me.

Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 11/30/11 at 2:58 pm to
For someone purporting to be focused on FACTS, he sure missed a big one here...

quote:

In 2007, a wacky one to say the least, a one-loss Georgia team was right in the hunt to play for the title. But the voters suddenly dropped Georgia a few slots in the polls on the next to last weekend. Why? They weren’t playing for the SEC title. And, how can you play for the BCS championship when you couldn’t even win your division? A two-loss LSU team, who lost their final regular season game, got to play for the title. They were, after all, a conference champion.
Posted by chilld28
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Member since Nov 2009
29622 posts
Posted on 11/30/11 at 2:58 pm to
quote:

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Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
28639 posts
Posted on 11/30/11 at 2:59 pm to
Never took you as the kicking and screaming sort until this week last week or two.
This post was edited on 11/30/11 at 3:00 pm
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
Member since Feb 2010
91653 posts
Posted on 11/30/11 at 3:00 pm to
If Okie State wins, they will play LSU in the BCS NC Game. I said it.
Posted by bishop
Maiden, North Carolina
Member since Jun 2004
2372 posts
Posted on 11/30/11 at 3:00 pm to
That, my friends, is a great article.

hmmmmm interesting!!! let the games begin!
Posted by bee Rye
New orleans
Member since Jan 2006
33964 posts
Posted on 11/30/11 at 3:01 pm to
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JPLSU1981
you are worse than most of the Bama fans. please quit starting threads
Posted by arlo
Member since Oct 2007
12376 posts
Posted on 11/30/11 at 3:02 pm to
Sports Radio ESPN 1420
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That homer be skeered.
Posted by MagillaGuerilla
Nick Fairley Fan Club, Founder
Member since Nov 2009
35446 posts
Posted on 11/30/11 at 3:04 pm to
I don't see the Sooners losing in Bedlam.

Gundy has never beat Stoops as a HC, and I don't think he has a significantly better team to end that streak.

Okie State has a slightly better offense, OU has a vastly better defense..
Posted by Camp Randall
The Shadow of the Valley of Death
Member since Nov 2005
15605 posts
Posted on 11/30/11 at 3:05 pm to
problem is...Okie Lite is gonna lose.
Posted by partsman103
Member since Sep 2008
8113 posts
Posted on 11/30/11 at 3:24 pm to
wellllll Sugar Bowl here we come!
Posted by ChopSuey
Member since Jan 2011
461 posts
Posted on 11/30/11 at 3:41 pm to
Geeze, how many of you Tiggers have google alerts set for "OSU and HARRIS POLL"?

Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
37269 posts
Posted on 11/30/11 at 3:52 pm to
That dude'll stick out like a sore thumb. Like the one guy that voted Boise #1 every week.
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