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NIL is hurting the SEC because ...

Posted on 9/15/25 at 12:57 pm
Posted by theliontamer
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2015
1798 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 12:57 pm
every team in the SEC is trying to win and spends the money to get kids. Even historically bad programs like Arkansas, South Carolina, and Miss State are ponying up war chests to keep good recruits in state. We have the fan bases to support this. The other conferences have 2 to 3 schools that are actually trying to win and are able to buy up all the players in their region. Everyone knows Ole Miss vs Arkansas is going to be a fun game with implications. Does anyone watch Mich State vs Northwestern? No.
Posted by Lgrnwd
Member since Jan 2018
8111 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 12:58 pm to
Nailed it
Posted by Landmass
Premium Member
Member since Jun 2013
23466 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 1:00 pm to
There's nothing keeping SEC schools out of other regions. We seem to be recruiting quite well out of region.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
19296 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 1:09 pm to
The problem is that it is allowing teams to both raid existing SEC rosters as well as get recruits who would have previously signed with a SEC team.

Top SEC teams have a lot less experienced, quality depth than they did prior to NIL and the portal.

Add to that missing on a portal player can have much more devastating results than missing on an 18 year old freshmen. Look at UCLA this season. Look at FSU last season.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
53395 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 1:38 pm to
it's why eventually like minded schools will band together to have a super conference/league
it's coming

Ohio St already wants no part of rest of Big Ten
Clemson, North Carolina and FSU want no part of ACC
SEC still seems to want to be together but eventually schools like Texas and Bama are gonna throw their weight around to get changes that benefit them
Posted by flagshipuniversity
Camden SC, Charlotte NC
Member since Jul 2024
549 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 1:46 pm to
The biggest problem with the NIL is continuity. The rosters are totally different, and they take time to gel. It's going to be a problem every year going forward. There are no real good players staying together for a few years to get acclimated to what each expects of the other. That and add coaching coordinators moving freely as well. It's a guessing game what any roster will look like from seasons end... to the next season. I used to as a kid have a favorite player I could watch on my team for 4 years. That same player today would be gone tomorrow to another payday. It's sad but true. I don't blame the kids for going for the money. I blame the athletic departments for the bidding war they created. Things are only worth what someone is willing to pay....
Posted by JustEd
Member since Feb 2022
290 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 1:52 pm to
Nowadays you have to recruit coast to coast and all in between and that makes the premium players more expensive.
Posted by Rodo
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
1495 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 1:53 pm to
Higher payment structure within the SEC footprint should attract talent from low-pay regions. If anything, it should lead to a fall-off in competiveness in second tier B10 and ACC teams.

Rodo
Posted by Clark14
Earth
Member since Dec 2014
26016 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 1:56 pm to
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Even historically bad programs like lsu,Arkansas, South Carolina, and Miss State are ponying up war chests to keep good recruits in state.



Arkansas doesn’t have in state talent to keep, and we can’t outbid anyone.
Posted by surgicalvenom
Omaha
Member since Jan 2014
6361 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 2:03 pm to
I really think NIL and expansion has hurt the Big 10 more. OSU, UM and Oregon can spend, and no one else can. The polls keep trying to prop them up, like Illinois in the top 10, but the conference isnt competitive at all.
Posted by mudshuvl05
Member since Nov 2023
2676 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 2:12 pm to
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eventually schools like Texas and Bama are gonna throw their weight around to get changes that benefit them
Like what? I keep seeing all these platitudes like this said, yet no specifics.

If schools like Bama, Texass, Georgia etc. started "throwing weight around" that would frick the State, Ole Miss, and Arkansas's of the SEC, they'd only be fricking themselves in the end. Viewers make the game. Nobody gives a shite about a players name on the back, they care about the one on the front. Yeah sure, some dog shite conference like the ACC, Pac12, etc., can operate in a vacuum, but you start putting the lesser-than SEC schools at even greater disadvantage to benefit a handful, you'll wind up listening to the game on the radio again or paying some exorbitant fee to watch your 6 schools play their 8 games that don't matter anymore.

If nobody is paying attention, it doesn't matter, if it doesn't matter, the sponsors won't care, and then it's bye-bye college football as you know it - certainly at the price you're paying for it right now. Someone will pick up that bill to keep the broadcasts going, and it will be the fans.

Besides, all this talk of NIL is misplaced: The problem is not paying the kids, the problem is them being able to come and go even more easily than a head coach can. The transient mercenary aspect of college football players is why, overall, the quality of an already inferior product (compared to the NFL) is as bad as it has ever been. The parity is finally there with NCAA football, but a lot of what people are contributing to parity really has to do with teams taking half a season to find their stride. It's a matter of who can work the basics out the fastest as to who will be in best shape for the playoffs. The days of watching a junior/senior equipped team come together like a fine tuned machine are over with, and that really sucks.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
74533 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 2:13 pm to
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I really think NIL and expansion has hurt the Big 10 more
Expansion is what’s going to kill that conference eventually. May not be next year or 5 years from now. But I guarantee within the next 10 years one of those west coast schools or a smaller program like Northwestern or Rutgers is going to say “travel is too expensive and taxing. We want something more local”.
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
71038 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 2:23 pm to
quote:

it's why eventually like minded schools will band together to have a super conference/league it's coming


That’s a great idea. To which country will this superconference or league be moving to so that they are not under the jurisdiction of US Federal law?
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
21910 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 3:10 pm to
quote:

Top SEC teams have a lot less experienced, quality depth than they did prior to NIL and the portal.

It's what making the SEC more exciting than it's ever been since the first expansion.
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
7522 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 3:23 pm to
I've kind of got mixed feelings about NIL.

UGA has lost some players to other schools offering more and has lost recruits who offer huge amounts to unproven incoming freshmen.

But on the flip side, UGA has been able to fill needs with guys "transferring up" from lesser schools to UGA and get rid of some locker room issue players by not offering additional NIL and effectively letting them cut themselves.

We probably don't have the total talent of some of our pre-NIL teams, but we also don't have as many holes or diva players. It feels like it kind of washes out.

I feel like UGA won't be getting a 5-star QB recruit these days because it's unlikely we'll let them start from day 1. We'll probably have 4-stars willing to wait (like Stockton) or guys who prove themselves at lower schools and transfer in.
Posted by flagshipuniversity
Camden SC, Charlotte NC
Member since Jul 2024
549 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 3:52 pm to
The biggest problem with the NIL is continuity. The rosters are totally different, and they take time to gel. It's going to be a problem every year going forward. There are no real good players staying together for a few years to get acclimated to what each expects of the other. That and add coaching coordinators moving freely as well. It's a guessing game what any roster will look like from seasons end... to the next season. I used to as a kid have a favorite player I could watch on my team for 4 years. That same player today would be gone tomorrow to another payday. It's sad but true. I don't blame the kids for going for the money. I blame the athletic departments for the bidding war they created. Things are only worth what someone is willing to pay....
Posted by JacieNY
Member since Jul 2024
1440 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 4:12 pm to
Agreed.

There is also the problem of paying a player up front and then on the field they are not all that.

It was always a problem before signing a top 10 class only to see some of them go bust but now they walk away as millionaires, hardly a life lesson there I think.

I don't see the current situation is sustainable, too much money being invested and there can only be 1 champion.

Posted by TN Tygah
Member since Nov 2023
7837 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 4:15 pm to
Because Bama is irrelevant now
Posted by RollingwiththeTide62
Member since Aug 2024
4057 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 4:18 pm to
We don’t have the population the big ten has
Posted by BumKnee
Member since Oct 2021
207 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 4:23 pm to
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Rodo


You know we can see your name to the left of your comment right?
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