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NIL is hurting the SEC because ...
Posted on 9/15/25 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 9/15/25 at 12:57 pm
every team in the SEC is trying to win and spends the money to get kids. Even historically bad programs like Arkansas, South Carolina, and Miss State are ponying up war chests to keep good recruits in state. We have the fan bases to support this. The other conferences have 2 to 3 schools that are actually trying to win and are able to buy up all the players in their region. Everyone knows Ole Miss vs Arkansas is going to be a fun game with implications. Does anyone watch Mich State vs Northwestern? No.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 1:00 pm to theliontamer
There's nothing keeping SEC schools out of other regions. We seem to be recruiting quite well out of region.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 1:09 pm to theliontamer
The problem is that it is allowing teams to both raid existing SEC rosters as well as get recruits who would have previously signed with a SEC team.
Top SEC teams have a lot less experienced, quality depth than they did prior to NIL and the portal.
Add to that missing on a portal player can have much more devastating results than missing on an 18 year old freshmen. Look at UCLA this season. Look at FSU last season.
Top SEC teams have a lot less experienced, quality depth than they did prior to NIL and the portal.
Add to that missing on a portal player can have much more devastating results than missing on an 18 year old freshmen. Look at UCLA this season. Look at FSU last season.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 1:38 pm to Lgrnwd
it's why eventually like minded schools will band together to have a super conference/league
it's coming
Ohio St already wants no part of rest of Big Ten
Clemson, North Carolina and FSU want no part of ACC
SEC still seems to want to be together but eventually schools like Texas and Bama are gonna throw their weight around to get changes that benefit them
it's coming
Ohio St already wants no part of rest of Big Ten
Clemson, North Carolina and FSU want no part of ACC
SEC still seems to want to be together but eventually schools like Texas and Bama are gonna throw their weight around to get changes that benefit them
Posted on 9/15/25 at 1:46 pm to theliontamer
The biggest problem with the NIL is continuity. The rosters are totally different, and they take time to gel. It's going to be a problem every year going forward. There are no real good players staying together for a few years to get acclimated to what each expects of the other. That and add coaching coordinators moving freely as well. It's a guessing game what any roster will look like from seasons end... to the next season. I used to as a kid have a favorite player I could watch on my team for 4 years. That same player today would be gone tomorrow to another payday. It's sad but true. I don't blame the kids for going for the money. I blame the athletic departments for the bidding war they created. Things are only worth what someone is willing to pay....
Posted on 9/15/25 at 1:52 pm to Landmass
Nowadays you have to recruit coast to coast and all in between and that makes the premium players more expensive.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 1:53 pm to theliontamer
Higher payment structure within the SEC footprint should attract talent from low-pay regions. If anything, it should lead to a fall-off in competiveness in second tier B10 and ACC teams.
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Posted on 9/15/25 at 1:56 pm to theliontamer
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Even historically bad programs like lsu,Arkansas, South Carolina, and Miss State are ponying up war chests to keep good recruits in state.
Arkansas doesn’t have in state talent to keep, and we can’t outbid anyone.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 2:03 pm to theliontamer
I really think NIL and expansion has hurt the Big 10 more. OSU, UM and Oregon can spend, and no one else can. The polls keep trying to prop them up, like Illinois in the top 10, but the conference isnt competitive at all.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 2:12 pm to nicholastiger
quote:Like what? I keep seeing all these platitudes like this said, yet no specifics.
eventually schools like Texas and Bama are gonna throw their weight around to get changes that benefit them
If schools like Bama, Texass, Georgia etc. started "throwing weight around" that would frick the State, Ole Miss, and Arkansas's of the SEC, they'd only be fricking themselves in the end. Viewers make the game. Nobody gives a shite about a players name on the back, they care about the one on the front. Yeah sure, some dog shite conference like the ACC, Pac12, etc., can operate in a vacuum, but you start putting the lesser-than SEC schools at even greater disadvantage to benefit a handful, you'll wind up listening to the game on the radio again or paying some exorbitant fee to watch your 6 schools play their 8 games that don't matter anymore.
If nobody is paying attention, it doesn't matter, if it doesn't matter, the sponsors won't care, and then it's bye-bye college football as you know it - certainly at the price you're paying for it right now. Someone will pick up that bill to keep the broadcasts going, and it will be the fans.
Besides, all this talk of NIL is misplaced: The problem is not paying the kids, the problem is them being able to come and go even more easily than a head coach can. The transient mercenary aspect of college football players is why, overall, the quality of an already inferior product (compared to the NFL) is as bad as it has ever been. The parity is finally there with NCAA football, but a lot of what people are contributing to parity really has to do with teams taking half a season to find their stride. It's a matter of who can work the basics out the fastest as to who will be in best shape for the playoffs. The days of watching a junior/senior equipped team come together like a fine tuned machine are over with, and that really sucks.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 2:13 pm to surgicalvenom
quote:Expansion is what’s going to kill that conference eventually. May not be next year or 5 years from now. But I guarantee within the next 10 years one of those west coast schools or a smaller program like Northwestern or Rutgers is going to say “travel is too expensive and taxing. We want something more local”.
I really think NIL and expansion has hurt the Big 10 more
Posted on 9/15/25 at 2:23 pm to nicholastiger
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it's why eventually like minded schools will band together to have a super conference/league it's coming
That’s a great idea. To which country will this superconference or league be moving to so that they are not under the jurisdiction of US Federal law?
Posted on 9/15/25 at 3:10 pm to captdalton
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Top SEC teams have a lot less experienced, quality depth than they did prior to NIL and the portal.
It's what making the SEC more exciting than it's ever been since the first expansion.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 3:23 pm to theliontamer
I've kind of got mixed feelings about NIL.
UGA has lost some players to other schools offering more and has lost recruits who offer huge amounts to unproven incoming freshmen.
But on the flip side, UGA has been able to fill needs with guys "transferring up" from lesser schools to UGA and get rid of some locker room issue players by not offering additional NIL and effectively letting them cut themselves.
We probably don't have the total talent of some of our pre-NIL teams, but we also don't have as many holes or diva players. It feels like it kind of washes out.
I feel like UGA won't be getting a 5-star QB recruit these days because it's unlikely we'll let them start from day 1. We'll probably have 4-stars willing to wait (like Stockton) or guys who prove themselves at lower schools and transfer in.
UGA has lost some players to other schools offering more and has lost recruits who offer huge amounts to unproven incoming freshmen.
But on the flip side, UGA has been able to fill needs with guys "transferring up" from lesser schools to UGA and get rid of some locker room issue players by not offering additional NIL and effectively letting them cut themselves.
We probably don't have the total talent of some of our pre-NIL teams, but we also don't have as many holes or diva players. It feels like it kind of washes out.
I feel like UGA won't be getting a 5-star QB recruit these days because it's unlikely we'll let them start from day 1. We'll probably have 4-stars willing to wait (like Stockton) or guys who prove themselves at lower schools and transfer in.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 3:52 pm to theliontamer
The biggest problem with the NIL is continuity. The rosters are totally different, and they take time to gel. It's going to be a problem every year going forward. There are no real good players staying together for a few years to get acclimated to what each expects of the other. That and add coaching coordinators moving freely as well. It's a guessing game what any roster will look like from seasons end... to the next season. I used to as a kid have a favorite player I could watch on my team for 4 years. That same player today would be gone tomorrow to another payday. It's sad but true. I don't blame the kids for going for the money. I blame the athletic departments for the bidding war they created. Things are only worth what someone is willing to pay....
Posted on 9/15/25 at 4:12 pm to flagshipuniversity
Agreed.
There is also the problem of paying a player up front and then on the field they are not all that.
It was always a problem before signing a top 10 class only to see some of them go bust but now they walk away as millionaires, hardly a life lesson there I think.
I don't see the current situation is sustainable, too much money being invested and there can only be 1 champion.
There is also the problem of paying a player up front and then on the field they are not all that.
It was always a problem before signing a top 10 class only to see some of them go bust but now they walk away as millionaires, hardly a life lesson there I think.
I don't see the current situation is sustainable, too much money being invested and there can only be 1 champion.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 4:15 pm to theliontamer
Because Bama is irrelevant now
Posted on 9/15/25 at 4:18 pm to theliontamer
We don’t have the population the big ten has
Posted on 9/15/25 at 4:23 pm to Rodo
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Rodo
You know we can see your name to the left of your comment right?
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