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McMurphy confirms what everyone knows - SEC/Big 10 don’t want FSU

Posted on 7/16/24 at 8:31 am
Posted by AHM21
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Posted on 7/16/24 at 8:31 am
Posted by Ssubba
Member since Oct 2014
7158 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 9:15 am to
Adding any large program right now is just going to dilute the money for the schools. Gotta wait for that next television negotiation. Now let's shut up about realignment for another decade.
This post was edited on 7/16/24 at 9:16 am
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
17050 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 9:34 am to
It doesn’t mean they wouldn’t be a good add in the future, it just means that the TV networks aren’t willing to open contract negotiations or pay more per team than they currently are with the existing deal.
Posted by Kirby59
Rocket City
Member since Nov 2016
857 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 10:24 am to
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Back to top Posted on 7/16/24 at 9:34 am to AHM21 It doesn’t mean they wouldn’t be a good add in the future, it just means that the TV networks aren’t willing to open contract negotiations or pay more per team than they currently are with the existing deal.


They don’t bring anything to the table. Just dilutes the money distribution. Frick ‘em. I agree they are a disrupter
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
10199 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 11:03 am to
Keep believing that bullshite. The media was saying UW and Oregon wouldn’t be added by the Big 10 as well.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
35647 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 11:29 am to
I wonder if FSU will have to belly crawl back to ACC and ask for forgiveness for being a disruptive partner.

ACC will say “sure, but we are legally corralling your bitch arse for decades.”
Posted by Opry
Member since Oct 2023
5206 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 11:58 am to
I used to like FSU but they have become the 'Texas' of the southeast.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34685 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 12:30 pm to
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The media was saying UW and Oregon wouldn’t be added by the Big 10 as well.


They weren't going to, but the PAC collapsed and Fox didn't want those programs to rot or maybe go to the ACC. UW and Oregon didn't put themselves in that position, the B1G did.

FSU is different. They are crashing the gate and screwing up a conference that would otherwise be stable.
Posted by Timstrebor
Member since Nov 2021
74 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 12:55 pm to
Y'all will believe anything, he said the same thing about OU and UW soon before they went to the B1G

He’s just being used as a mouthpiece so it looks like there isn’t any tampering

Now does the SEC really want FSU? Probably not, but the B1G would be licking their chops to get into the southeast with an actual good brand

They’re not tier 1, but tier 2 still brings plenty of eyeballs

Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
7341 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 12:58 pm to
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They’re not tier 1, but tier 2 still brings plenty of eyeballs


Again the issue is the SEC won't get more money by adding them. They didn't get more money per team by adding Texas and OU, and FSU/Clemson have less worth than them.

The earliest the SEC will add teams is leading up to the end of their current TV contract in the early 2030's. 5-7 years down the road... sure. Now? I don't think there is interest.
This post was edited on 7/16/24 at 12:59 pm
Posted by bamabaseballsec
Member since Dec 2020
2745 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 1:02 pm to
Interesting language, fsu will not be added to the big/sec IF the acc SURVIVES. Sounds like fsu has a plus one but no offer.
Posted by SneezyBeltranIsHere
Member since Jul 2021
3732 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 1:03 pm to
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I used to like FSU but they have become the 'Texas' of the southeast.


I really don't think this is fair. Every school is going to look out for its own best interests, and we should expect nothing less, but Texas and Oklahoma were willing to honor every year of their agreement with the Big 12. FSU signed a GOR with the ACC twice, and is in the courts trying to go back on their binding commitments.

I don't think the SEC or B1G trust FSU or Clemson....and they shouldn't.
Posted by Pimphand
Member since Sep 2021
2951 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 1:06 pm to
Its no wonder the powers that should not be have been able to distract divide and conquer.... These freaks will believe just about everything written in books, newspapers, magazines, & the internet for centuries and they probably believed the "rumors" fabricated by the control structure before that.... Obligate slaves
Posted by bamabaseballsec
Member since Dec 2020
2745 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 1:08 pm to
Texas and Oklahoma were willing to honor every year of their agreement with the Big 12

No they weren’t or they’d still be in the big 12 this upcoming season. That’s why y’all paid an exit fee. Your contract had a year remaining. So while more honor than fsu, still no honor
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
7341 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 1:13 pm to
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Texas and Oklahoma were willing to honor every year of their agreement with the Big 12.


But you didn't. They worked out an agreement to leave the Big 12 a year or two earlier than the agreement stipulated they could. I believe the original agreement wouldn't have allowed Texas and OU to join the SEC until 2025 or 2026.

Yes, you got them to agree without taking them to court, but you didn't live up to the agreement. You negotiated an out.

The reality for Texas is they really messed up in the first expansion craze. They did a very poor job of reading the tea leaves. They had their choice of where to go. Had they gone to the Big 10 or SEC then, there likely wouldn't have been a second expansion scenario like we're having now. Had they gone to the Pac-10, it might have solidified that conference and prevented them from being cherry picked by the Big 10.

They made a short term decision that was good for them that was not good in the long term. And it screwed up a lot of the rest of the landscape of college football when they did it.

They had every right to make the call they did. But even Texas fans have to realize it wasn't the right decision looking back on it.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
11533 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 1:57 pm to
FSU is probably headed to the BIG12. They have established a well documented distaste for competing at the highest level...they have never wanted any SEC smoke and they don't want any Michigan Ohio State 2 team conference smoke. They are programmatically cowards. They add nothing to the SEC and the only thing they could bring to the BIG10 is more exposure in Florida....and its doubtful that Ohio State and Michigan aren't already well known commodities in Florida High Schools.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
9035 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 2:01 pm to
I think the Big Ten and SEC are both posturing to be quite honest.

I believe they want FSU, Clemson, and a few others out of the ACC but the money doesn't make sense. The next time the Big Ten and SEC are entering a renegotiation window, this stuff will heat up OR these ACC schools go to the Big-12 to prop them up as the 3rd leg of the power conference stool.
Posted by Mr Sausage
Cat Spring, Texas
Member since Oct 2011
14609 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 2:03 pm to
Yall are counting on Greg Sankey not to do something stupid? Hmmm.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
130551 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 2:05 pm to
We already own the state...
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
9035 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 2:06 pm to
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Yall are counting on Greg Sankey not to do something stupid? Hmmm.



I think he handled the last renegotiation and expansion period well. He'll probably be long gone by the next one.
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