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Ranking every SEC program’s current situation
Posted on 12/7/23 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 12/7/23 at 2:20 pm
Not necessarily for this year but just how things are trending for the future.
1. Georgia
They’ve got the most talent. A young coach. Due to Saban’s age I’d rather be where Georgia is heading into the future than where Bama is.
2. Alabama
I mean they’d be #1 if not for Saban’s age. He shows no signs of slowing but age doesn’t lie. It’s only a matter of time.
3. Texas
If Sark wins a National Title I’d move them to #2.
4. LSU
Brian Kelly will keep his team in the Top 15 or 20. Jury is out on whether he can win a championship, but LSU’s situation is better than most.
5. Ole Miss
I don’t think it’s possible to recruit Top 5 or 10 classes to Oxford, so this is probably their ceiling. But they are four or so years in and have a better foundation than some of these bigger programs who will be up above them in time. For now, they are in a good spot.
6. Tennessee
I put them here because Heupel has put together two decent back-to-back seasons. Oklahoma could pass them next year if Venebles has another Top 20 season.
7. Oklahoma
Venebles is in year 2 and year 2 was pretty decent. He needs to string together two consecutive seasons to move up.
8. Auburn
Freeze showed improvement for Auburn in his first season and was within 10 combined points of beating Bama and Georgia. His recruiting class looks strong and should finish in the Top 10. Moving in the right direction.
9. Texas A&M
New coach. Still loads of talent. Should be fine but also starting over post Jimbo
10. Missouri
Solid year for Drinkwitz. Is this a Beamer at SC situation where he takes a step back the next season or can this be sustained? Recruiting to MIZ is not easy.
11. S Carolina
Took a step back this year but recruiting looks good for them.
12. Mississippi St
New coach incoming. Can’t get much worse.
13. Florida
Wasting time holding onto Napier.
14. Kentucky
Stoops is an above average coach for UK who’s taken advantage of BY FAR the easiest schedule in the league. That advantage goes away with no divisions.
15. Arkansas
Same as Florida but without talent.
16 Vandy
They are Vandy
1. Georgia
They’ve got the most talent. A young coach. Due to Saban’s age I’d rather be where Georgia is heading into the future than where Bama is.
2. Alabama
I mean they’d be #1 if not for Saban’s age. He shows no signs of slowing but age doesn’t lie. It’s only a matter of time.
3. Texas
If Sark wins a National Title I’d move them to #2.
4. LSU
Brian Kelly will keep his team in the Top 15 or 20. Jury is out on whether he can win a championship, but LSU’s situation is better than most.
5. Ole Miss
I don’t think it’s possible to recruit Top 5 or 10 classes to Oxford, so this is probably their ceiling. But they are four or so years in and have a better foundation than some of these bigger programs who will be up above them in time. For now, they are in a good spot.
6. Tennessee
I put them here because Heupel has put together two decent back-to-back seasons. Oklahoma could pass them next year if Venebles has another Top 20 season.
7. Oklahoma
Venebles is in year 2 and year 2 was pretty decent. He needs to string together two consecutive seasons to move up.
8. Auburn
Freeze showed improvement for Auburn in his first season and was within 10 combined points of beating Bama and Georgia. His recruiting class looks strong and should finish in the Top 10. Moving in the right direction.
9. Texas A&M
New coach. Still loads of talent. Should be fine but also starting over post Jimbo
10. Missouri
Solid year for Drinkwitz. Is this a Beamer at SC situation where he takes a step back the next season or can this be sustained? Recruiting to MIZ is not easy.
11. S Carolina
Took a step back this year but recruiting looks good for them.
12. Mississippi St
New coach incoming. Can’t get much worse.
13. Florida
Wasting time holding onto Napier.
14. Kentucky
Stoops is an above average coach for UK who’s taken advantage of BY FAR the easiest schedule in the league. That advantage goes away with no divisions.
15. Arkansas
Same as Florida but without talent.
16 Vandy
They are Vandy
This post was edited on 12/7/23 at 2:55 pm
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Posted on 12/7/23 at 2:23 pm to AUTiger789
I'd rank Alabama 1A and GA 1B right now. Taking into account Sabans age as you mentioned but you can't discount his winning against Ga.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 2:23 pm to AUTiger789
Mizzou way too low in my opinion.
Mizzou is going to be very good next year. Especially on offense.
Defense has a lot of guys going to the league but they just landed the top Portal corner to replace a spot left by two guys that will be drafted to the league. There will be no step back as far as next year goes.
Also you didn’t rank Vandy or Kentucky.
Mizzou is going to be very good next year. Especially on offense.
Defense has a lot of guys going to the league but they just landed the top Portal corner to replace a spot left by two guys that will be drafted to the league. There will be no step back as far as next year goes.
Also you didn’t rank Vandy or Kentucky.
This post was edited on 12/7/23 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 12/7/23 at 2:23 pm to AUTiger789
Imagine if you had posted this list in August.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 2:24 pm to AUTiger789
Fair assessment except aTm isn't keeping all that talent. I'd flip Mizz and aTm
Posted on 12/7/23 at 2:24 pm to AUTiger789
Stopped reading after "1. Georgia".
Posted on 12/7/23 at 2:24 pm to AUTiger789
quote:
every SEC program
frick Vandy I guess... Kentucky too
This post was edited on 12/7/23 at 2:25 pm
Posted on 12/7/23 at 2:25 pm to AUTiger789
I’d drop A&M below Missouri. Otherwise, seems reasonable.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 2:25 pm to AUTiger789
Did Texas and Oklahoma replace Vandy and Kentucky? I thought it was an expansion.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 2:26 pm to AUTiger789
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Freeze showed improvement for Auburn in his first season
Posted on 12/7/23 at 2:26 pm to AUTiger789
Flip Mizzou with A&M and put Auburn over OU (Auburn is bringing in a lot of talent right now and OU is losing a bunch)
Posted on 12/7/23 at 2:27 pm to AUTiger789
1. Bama (even)
2. uga (even)
3. texas (even)
4. ole miss (UP)
5. lsu (Down)
6. Ok (Down)
7. missour (even)
8. Tenn (down)
9. AU (up)
10. Kentucky (down)
11. atm (down)
12. florida (down)
13. usc (down)
14. arky (down)
15. Miss st (down)
16. Vandy (even)
Team with trending
2. uga (even)
3. texas (even)
4. ole miss (UP)
5. lsu (Down)
6. Ok (Down)
7. missour (even)
8. Tenn (down)
9. AU (up)
10. Kentucky (down)
11. atm (down)
12. florida (down)
13. usc (down)
14. arky (down)
15. Miss st (down)
16. Vandy (even)
Team with trending
This post was edited on 12/7/23 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 12/7/23 at 2:29 pm to AUTiger789
Well, frick you too.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 2:42 pm to AUTiger789
Missouri should be above Aggie and Auburn currently
Posted on 12/7/23 at 2:44 pm to AUTiger789
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They’ve got the most talent.
UGA is damn talented, but Bama is on another level. I realize it is a rather subjective means of measuring, but 24/7 seems to be the only source for this.
In fact, the talent gap of high school talent signed is large enough to question why Bama's is not even more dominant than they have been the last three years. Don't get me wrong, I wish to hell LSU had this "problem", but if you believe in the accuracy of this metric, that gap between them and the rest of college football is massive.
Hell they have SEVEN 5 star kids at the linebacker position alone.
24/7 Team talent
Posted on 12/7/23 at 2:47 pm to AUTiger789
quote:
Ranking every SEC program’s current situation
Tier 1- program builders
Tier 2- system guys
Tier 3- jury’s out
Tier 4- currently on fire
Posted on 12/7/23 at 2:51 pm to AUTiger789
Hypothetical -
Where would you rank New Mexico State?
Where would you rank New Mexico State?
Posted on 12/7/23 at 2:58 pm to AUTiger789
1. Georgia: unless Kirby gets bored, they will be a championship contender for many years to come. Wealthy program, fertile recruiting grounds, excellent support, the best program so far this decade.
2. Alabama: same as above except Saban is getting old and won't keep going for that much longer. That leaves at least some questions marks. Elite programs that make bad coaching hires can collapse. (See: Tennessee, Florida).
3. Texas: same as above but with arguably even more resources. We will see if Sark has staying power. We've seen how royally Texas can frick things up for themselves over the past decade.
4. Oklahoma: Oklahoma is never truly down, and I think they have a solid coach. The recruiting is still there, the fan support is there, and having Texas move with them means they will continue to raid the state for blue chip recruits.
5. LSU: I am not convinced Coach Kelly can take them to the promised land. He's a good coach, but I really don't think he was the best option for the Tigers. Regardless, LSU will always have elite recruiting and fan support and they were a couple defensive players away from a very special season.
6. Tennessee: Heupel is a good coach and Tennessee has a ton of resources. I think we'll see a return to last season's form next year.
7. Mizzou: Coach Drink has Mizzou humming. He doesn't appear to be on anyone's radar to be poached away and has his players believing. His recruiting has been elite and the team should be excellent again next season with many key starters returning. I disagree with the sentiment that Mizzou is difficult to recruit - there is plenty of in-state talent to build a core around and no in-state or regional competition for recruits.
8. Ole Miss: I just don't believe Kiffin will stay put long. He never has and I don't think that's magically changed. Assuming he did, I'd move Ole Miss up a few spots. But this is the same guy who ditched Tennessee the second ol' USC came calling.
9. Auburn: Despite on field struggles, it looks like things are turning the corner behind closed doors. The fan support will always be there and Freeze has shown he can win in the past if he can keep his nose clean.
10. South Carolina: I think Beamer is a good coach and the recruiting looks solid. They took some hits in the portal so far, but I still think there is a lot of upside here.
11. Kentucky: Stoops has been great, but I worry that his tenure has slightly run its course. Kentucky reminds me of Mizzou back in the Big 12 days, they would hang around and beat better teams but could rarely piece entire seasons together.
12. Texas A&M: They should be fantastic but what a shitshow. It seems like the money machine might be slowing a bit and they lost a lot of talent over the past season. I think this will be a tough turnaround for the new coaching staff despite the excellent fan support, recruiting grounds, and resources.
13. Florida: Napier ain't it. Florida should be much, much better. Honestly, what the hell are the Gators doing?
14. Arkansas: Pittman has regressed badly. And I'm not sure a career position coach in his 60s can innovate enough to change things. A lack of local recruiting and a frustrated fanbase doesn't help things.
15. Mississippi State: Tough deal for them losing the Pirate so suddenly. But it might be bleak for awhile, and as a Mizzou fan I know all too well what a bad internal coaching hire can do to sink a program.
16. Vanderbilt: I am not convinced that anyone affiliated with the University actually gives a shite about the football program. They are collecting SEC checks for being the token elite private school.
2. Alabama: same as above except Saban is getting old and won't keep going for that much longer. That leaves at least some questions marks. Elite programs that make bad coaching hires can collapse. (See: Tennessee, Florida).
3. Texas: same as above but with arguably even more resources. We will see if Sark has staying power. We've seen how royally Texas can frick things up for themselves over the past decade.
4. Oklahoma: Oklahoma is never truly down, and I think they have a solid coach. The recruiting is still there, the fan support is there, and having Texas move with them means they will continue to raid the state for blue chip recruits.
5. LSU: I am not convinced Coach Kelly can take them to the promised land. He's a good coach, but I really don't think he was the best option for the Tigers. Regardless, LSU will always have elite recruiting and fan support and they were a couple defensive players away from a very special season.
6. Tennessee: Heupel is a good coach and Tennessee has a ton of resources. I think we'll see a return to last season's form next year.
7. Mizzou: Coach Drink has Mizzou humming. He doesn't appear to be on anyone's radar to be poached away and has his players believing. His recruiting has been elite and the team should be excellent again next season with many key starters returning. I disagree with the sentiment that Mizzou is difficult to recruit - there is plenty of in-state talent to build a core around and no in-state or regional competition for recruits.
8. Ole Miss: I just don't believe Kiffin will stay put long. He never has and I don't think that's magically changed. Assuming he did, I'd move Ole Miss up a few spots. But this is the same guy who ditched Tennessee the second ol' USC came calling.
9. Auburn: Despite on field struggles, it looks like things are turning the corner behind closed doors. The fan support will always be there and Freeze has shown he can win in the past if he can keep his nose clean.
10. South Carolina: I think Beamer is a good coach and the recruiting looks solid. They took some hits in the portal so far, but I still think there is a lot of upside here.
11. Kentucky: Stoops has been great, but I worry that his tenure has slightly run its course. Kentucky reminds me of Mizzou back in the Big 12 days, they would hang around and beat better teams but could rarely piece entire seasons together.
12. Texas A&M: They should be fantastic but what a shitshow. It seems like the money machine might be slowing a bit and they lost a lot of talent over the past season. I think this will be a tough turnaround for the new coaching staff despite the excellent fan support, recruiting grounds, and resources.
13. Florida: Napier ain't it. Florida should be much, much better. Honestly, what the hell are the Gators doing?
14. Arkansas: Pittman has regressed badly. And I'm not sure a career position coach in his 60s can innovate enough to change things. A lack of local recruiting and a frustrated fanbase doesn't help things.
15. Mississippi State: Tough deal for them losing the Pirate so suddenly. But it might be bleak for awhile, and as a Mizzou fan I know all too well what a bad internal coaching hire can do to sink a program.
16. Vanderbilt: I am not convinced that anyone affiliated with the University actually gives a shite about the football program. They are collecting SEC checks for being the token elite private school.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 3:01 pm to AUTiger789
List is shite
Posted on 12/7/23 at 3:17 pm to AUTiger789
Pretty solid honestly
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