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Here's what you outsiders don't know about Mississippi State
Posted on 11/13/23 at 5:12 pm
Posted on 11/13/23 at 5:12 pm
This was explained to me a decade or so ago.
Take someone like Jimmy Rane (Yellawood guy). He's a billionaire and his company makes $1 billion a year in revenue. He has a lot of influence at Auburn.
At Mississippi State, there is a group of guys (The Cigar Boys). These are guys that have net worths of a million or so and run small/mid-size companies that together wouldn't have $100 million in revenue.
Sure you have your Davis Wade's (founder of AFLAC) but they are making one time donations. Hell, one of State's richest alums has a SEC rival coach in their commercial. Those guys don't GAF about Mississippi State football.
But the Cigar Boys do. But they don't have FU money to throw around. Need $25k, sure we can get that together. Need $5 million? Aint going to happen. The Cigar Boys love them some baseball too. So if they are going to play the NIL game, its going to be baseball.
They hated Mullen because he wouldn't kiss their arse. They hated Moorhead because he wouldn't kiss their arse. They hated Leach because he told them to kiss his arse. Arnett did what he was told. He was told to shed the Air Raid and he did. It ruined any chance of us having a decent season.
This is the first coaching hire for our AD. He's an Oklahoma guy so he's been around a good football program. But the Cigar Boys are going to be way too involved in this hire and we are going to screw it up.
Take someone like Jimmy Rane (Yellawood guy). He's a billionaire and his company makes $1 billion a year in revenue. He has a lot of influence at Auburn.
At Mississippi State, there is a group of guys (The Cigar Boys). These are guys that have net worths of a million or so and run small/mid-size companies that together wouldn't have $100 million in revenue.
Sure you have your Davis Wade's (founder of AFLAC) but they are making one time donations. Hell, one of State's richest alums has a SEC rival coach in their commercial. Those guys don't GAF about Mississippi State football.
But the Cigar Boys do. But they don't have FU money to throw around. Need $25k, sure we can get that together. Need $5 million? Aint going to happen. The Cigar Boys love them some baseball too. So if they are going to play the NIL game, its going to be baseball.
They hated Mullen because he wouldn't kiss their arse. They hated Moorhead because he wouldn't kiss their arse. They hated Leach because he told them to kiss his arse. Arnett did what he was told. He was told to shed the Air Raid and he did. It ruined any chance of us having a decent season.
This is the first coaching hire for our AD. He's an Oklahoma guy so he's been around a good football program. But the Cigar Boys are going to be way too involved in this hire and we are going to screw it up.
This post was edited on 11/13/23 at 5:14 pm
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Posted on 11/13/23 at 5:15 pm to anc
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So if they are going to play the NIL game, its going to be baseball.
This is what is happening at State, LSU and Ole Miss also.
Posted on 11/13/23 at 5:27 pm to anc
Then why didn't y'all scrape together 180K a decade ago? Allegedly 
Posted on 11/13/23 at 5:35 pm to anc
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At Mississippi State, there is a group of guys (The Cigar Boys). These are guys that have net worths of a million or so
If these guys are calling the shots, it’s a miracle that State has ever been decent in football. That’s real poverty program shite.
Posted on 11/13/23 at 5:40 pm to anc
State isn't supported by multibillion dollar Sanderson Farms?
Posted on 11/13/23 at 5:42 pm to anc
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They hated Mullen because he wouldn't kiss their arse.
It wouldn't have mattered if he had. Dan Mullen is one of those people you don't need a reason to hate. He is an instigator who lets players take the penalties for stuff he does like getting a fight started on the field.
Posted on 11/13/23 at 5:46 pm to anc
How does a group of guys worth only around a million have so much power?
I know dozens of farmers that are state grads worth tens of millions. Including my wife’s family
I know dozens of farmers that are state grads worth tens of millions. Including my wife’s family
Posted on 11/13/23 at 5:58 pm to anc
This is the most miss state thing I could possibly imagine
Posted on 11/13/23 at 6:14 pm to anc
OP doesn't have a clue what he's talking about. This is all completely made up
Posted on 11/13/23 at 6:17 pm to anc
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They hated Leach because he told them to kiss his arse.
Posted on 11/13/23 at 6:32 pm to anc
Y’all need to hit up Jimmy Sanders. He’s true maroon and sold his company for close to a billion dollars. He got life long Rebel fan Caleb Reed to go to State. (Mississippi state insiders know what I’m talking about)
Posted on 11/13/23 at 6:33 pm to anc
Transfer portal and NIL will guarantee that 10 or so schools have any chance of competing at a national level. They just as well go to a 12 team playoff and eliminate the rest of the bowls.
Posted on 11/13/23 at 6:48 pm to anc
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These are guys that have net worths of a million or so
FYI, a net worth of a million isn’t $#it.
Posted on 11/13/23 at 7:35 pm to anc
my famuhlee's name is on the side of Davis Wade stadium, this wage-earning proletariat has no idea what he's talking about.
Posted on 11/13/23 at 7:36 pm to anc
The Cigar Boys have a LOT bigger net worth than one million each. Some random guy with 3 convenience stores can have that. Half the doctors in Starkville could have that.
We absolutely could come up with $5 million pretty quickly for something big. Maybe not $50 million quickly, but State has spent hundreds of millions in athletic facilities improvements over the last 10-20 years.
State recently finished a capital campaign that raised a BILLION dollars.
We're not quite as poor as you think. Maybe we haven't spent it on NIL yet, but we can spend a good bit for a new coach (I read $6-8 million/year), and hopefully he can loosen some wallets for NIL. I think our old-minded fans initially resisted paying players but now are opening up to it.
We absolutely could come up with $5 million pretty quickly for something big. Maybe not $50 million quickly, but State has spent hundreds of millions in athletic facilities improvements over the last 10-20 years.
State recently finished a capital campaign that raised a BILLION dollars.
We're not quite as poor as you think. Maybe we haven't spent it on NIL yet, but we can spend a good bit for a new coach (I read $6-8 million/year), and hopefully he can loosen some wallets for NIL. I think our old-minded fans initially resisted paying players but now are opening up to it.
This post was edited on 11/13/23 at 7:43 pm
Posted on 11/13/23 at 8:09 pm to anc
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Cigar Boys
My mind instantly went to Boss Hogg
Posted on 11/13/23 at 8:14 pm to anc
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At Mississippi State, there is a group of guys (The Cigar Boys). These are guys that have net worths of a million or so and run small/mid-size companies that together wouldn't have $100 million in revenue.
Oohhhh the lore of the "Cigar Boys".
Posted on 11/13/23 at 8:24 pm to anc
Sounds like y’all have rich idiots that want to screw things up like we do.
Posted on 11/13/23 at 8:28 pm to anc
One thing is certain, we are wayyyyy past due on a frick you money booster.
Posted on 11/13/23 at 8:30 pm to anc
But the “Cigar Boys” don’t have enough enough power to dictate the coaching hire. That is the good news. They are vital for contributions, but they can’t hire a coach.
A much bigger threat is a Jimmy Raines or Paul Bryant, Jr. who does have enough sway to hire the coach. Those outside booster hires never work.
Mississippi State might foul this up. But at least it won’t be because there is one a-hole with too much money and too little sense about football to hire your coach hiring your coach.
A much bigger threat is a Jimmy Raines or Paul Bryant, Jr. who does have enough sway to hire the coach. Those outside booster hires never work.
Mississippi State might foul this up. But at least it won’t be because there is one a-hole with too much money and too little sense about football to hire your coach hiring your coach.
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