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re: So who do you bet will be starting QB next year?
Posted on 12/9/22 at 8:19 pm to BLG
Posted on 12/9/22 at 8:19 pm to BLG
So you don’t see any progress from Milroe year to year? That is a bold take.
His improvement next year and there will be improvement, will determine his future at Alabama.
If he loses the job here, definitely a possibility, he’ll go somewhere else and eventually shine.
That’s how I see him. A tremendous athlete just finding his way in a difficult position.
His improvement next year and there will be improvement, will determine his future at Alabama.
If he loses the job here, definitely a possibility, he’ll go somewhere else and eventually shine.
That’s how I see him. A tremendous athlete just finding his way in a difficult position.
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Posted on 12/12/22 at 5:22 am to jryanw
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He doesn’t have Milroe’s speed and elusiveness though. Milroe is baby Lamar.
Mlroe is a 0 threat in the passing game and his passing is in fact a liability. The second half of the A&M game is Milroe’s game. A@M put a spy on him and his wild running plays ended. All that was left were sacks, fumbles and near ints.
Posted on 12/12/22 at 5:26 am to tider04
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C or B. If it’s A…we in deep doo doo.
Posted on 12/12/22 at 11:20 pm to BlackPawnMartyr
B. Ty Simpson for sure.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 10:30 am to BlackPawnMartyr
No idea but if I had to bet on one it would be Simpson.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 11:36 am to Funky Tide 8
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Coker wasn't ready for the starting job until halfway through the 2015 season. I feel like that was pretty obvious.
Too many people think real life football is like NCAA or Madden.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 12:20 pm to Fells
Blake is a personal friend of mine. Thank you for saying that.
Chromatic you are like so far off there isn’t a map to find you.
Blake was very limited, he will even admit that. But he played his arse off, won the SEC and came up short against OSU because A. Our OC went away from running Henry and B. The defense laid some eggs.
Chromatic you are like so far off there isn’t a map to find you.
Blake was very limited, he will even admit that. But he played his arse off, won the SEC and came up short against OSU because A. Our OC went away from running Henry and B. The defense laid some eggs.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 12:47 pm to CrimsonBoz
Trying to get back on topic here, I'm really pulling for Ty Simpson. He's obviously the more gifted passer and even though Milroe adds more of a rushing element, we've won quite a bit going with the pocket-passer approach. He got very little time this season, especially pass attempts, but some of the throws we've seen have looked good, including some of the practice videos recently released.
I think he has not just the higher ceiling but a higher floor. We obviously can't replace a Heisman winning QB but the transition would be much smoother with Simpson than Milroe. Depending on who we hire as the next OC, I wonder if he would want to bring a QB in from his current team that already knows his system? Something to consider.
I think he has not just the higher ceiling but a higher floor. We obviously can't replace a Heisman winning QB but the transition would be much smoother with Simpson than Milroe. Depending on who we hire as the next OC, I wonder if he would want to bring a QB in from his current team that already knows his system? Something to consider.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 1:08 pm to TheNameIsDalton
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Depending on who we hire as the next OC, I wonder if he would want to bring a QB in from his current team that already knows his system? Something to consider.
We could always go after McCall from Coastal Carolina and bring in Willy Korn as OC.
Just something to think about.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 2:07 pm to DT55Forever1
I think Ty is the real deal, I see him winning the job convincingly this spring.
Posted on 12/15/22 at 8:24 am to Funky Tide 8
I think people are selling Milroe short. He can and will get better in the passing game. Potentially a very dangerous player.
Posted on 12/15/22 at 10:08 am to Funky Tide 8
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I think Ty is the real deal, I see him winning the job convincingly this spring.
Saban has always been painfully slow at naming the starting QB. I don't expect we'll know until the week of the first game, and it might even be where both QBs play the first game
This post was edited on 12/15/22 at 10:09 am
Posted on 12/15/22 at 10:19 am to TS1926
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It was obvious that Blake was better than Coker. Jake looked like a robot and was very slow getting the ball out even on screen plays.
Jake even struggled early on in the first part of the 2015 season. That’s why they pulled him and started CB against Ole Miss which turned out to be a huge mistake.
First, the transformation of Blake over that summer is one of the best improvements in a player I have ever seen. Coming out the spring game he couldn't hit the broad side of the barn.
That Ole Miss game is the game when it became Coker's team. I don't think that Bateman started because he was better, but they wanted Coker to step up and he did.
Posted on 12/15/22 at 11:22 am to Commander Data
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I think people are selling Milroe short. He can and will get better in the passing game. Potentially a very dangerous player.
Oh I'm not. I think that Milroe is a freak, and i honestly think that we'd win most games with him starting. He's the kind of player that can demoralize a defense. People act like the Arkansas game didn't happen. There is a reason why we blew the doors off of them offensively when he got in the game. Massive yardage plays and scoring at will was something that we struggled with almost all season.
And people put way too much stock into the A&M game. It was his first ever start, against a talented team, true sophomore, and he had a pro style OC that isn't good at even calling plays for a pro style QB calling plays for him. Fumbles are something that can easily be fixed. He just needs someone to coach him up passing wise.
Having said that, Ty looks like he's already relatively polished as a passer, and he also can run the ball. Idk we'll see how it shakes out.
It seems that there is this idea that we are questionable at the QB spot, and I think that we are in great shape considering we are losing one of the greatest QBs Bama has ever had.
This post was edited on 12/16/22 at 10:04 am
Posted on 12/15/22 at 12:07 pm to TS1926
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Jake even struggled early on in the first part of the 2015 season. That’s why they pulled him and started CB against Ole Miss which turned out to be a huge mistake.
Jake had the flu and was running a fever but had to be pulled in.
Posted on 12/15/22 at 7:58 pm to Funky Tide 8
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People act like the Arkansas game didn't happen.
We outscored arkansas by 2 points while he was running the offense and the only reason we outscored them at all is because Arkansas missed on a 2 point conversion.
He went 4/9 for a grand total of 65 yards and ran for 77 of his 91 rushing yards in one play. His one TD pass was a 0 yard pass that Jojo Earle ran for 22 yards.
Gibbs ran for over 200 yards in that game. Bryce completed 3 more passes than he did in that game and had almost triple the yardage.
Milroe had a long run and looked terrible passing. He didn't complete a pass in our last three TD drives. We were essentially up 21-0 before he took over and we played them even the rest of the way.
The A&M game was pretty much exactly what we got in the Arkansas game, we just didn't have a 21 point cushion to start with.
This post was edited on 12/15/22 at 8:19 pm
Posted on 12/15/22 at 8:19 pm to Fells
Lane wanted Cooper Bateman to start versus Ole Miss and Saban wanted Jake Coker but we ended up starting Bateman.
Posted on 12/16/22 at 9:49 am to RolltidePA
JMO but Milroe will do battle this spring for the starting gig and if he fails then he will hit that spring portal deal.
He has terrible throwing mechanics and at this it would be difficult to fix. With his wheels he will be in demand for many teams. He might be a killer at TCU.
He has terrible throwing mechanics and at this it would be difficult to fix. With his wheels he will be in demand for many teams. He might be a killer at TCU.
Posted on 12/16/22 at 10:01 am to RolltidePA
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We outscored arkansas by 2 points while he was running the offense and the only reason we outscored them at all is because Arkansas missed on a 2 point conversion.
So you are pinging Milroe because the defense sucked?
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He went 4/9 for a grand total of 65 yards and ran for 77 of his 91 rushing yards in one play. His one TD pass was a 0 yard pass that Jojo Earle ran for 22 yards.
Gibbs ran for over 200 yards in that game. Bryce completed 3 more passes than he did in that game and had almost triple the yardage.
Milroe had a long run and looked terrible passing. He didn't complete a pass in our last three TD drives. We were essentially up 21-0 before he took over and we played them even the rest of the way.
Clearly the threat of Milroe running the ball opened up BIG lanes for Gibbs. He didn't have close to that much room to run in any other game this season.
Everyone knows that he needs a lot of work on his passing. I stated that in my post.
We scored 35 points in 2 and half quarters with him at QB. That's a fact. Our defense letting Arkansas shoot it out with us in the third quarter is of no relevance to how our offense played.
All I said in my post is that he is an athletic freak that could be incredible IF he could get his passing even serviceable. If you think that he can't, then cool, but I've seen plenty of bama posters on here over the years swear on their mothers' graves that so-and-so would never be able to pass the ball well and they were eventually proven VERY wrong. Players develop. QBs can make big leaps in a small amount of time. Will he? Who knows, but can we stop acting like this dude can't possibly improve his passing?
This post was edited on 12/16/22 at 10:10 am
Posted on 12/16/22 at 10:02 am to JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
Doubtful they will name a starter after Spring. Thats what they always do. Saban will wait until after the second scrimmage of Fall practice and bite anyone's head off that asks about it. Milroe hasnt played very well but he does have a very strong arm, and he is way faster than just about any QB we have had. Our offense would need to be adjusted to fit his skill unless he gets a lot better at reading defenses, calling audibles, and standing in the pocket. Not sure our OC can mold an offense to fit the QB. Probably the draw we have with high school QBs is that we run an NFL offense that prepares them for the league, so Milrow might not even like the idea of changing the offense.
This post was edited on 12/16/22 at 10:11 am
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