re: What I’m hearing (coaching search)

Interesting. Time to start reading the tea leaves.

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It would be that miserable. The dude is 16-8 with Pavia and crew and has beaten 2 teams in the SEC with a winning record this year.

The guy has delivered two 10 loss seasons at Vandy. He would be a huge wet blanket thrown on the fans. We will be looking for an AD and HC in 3 years if hired. IMO.

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This logic is so stupid.

The entire objective of a college football head coach is to evaluate and hire the best assistant coaches available to them and then evaluate and recruit the best football players available to them, and finally combine the ingredients and bake the cake into a winning football program. Can you point to me to a single head coach that is winning games without elite talent and without great assistant coaches and coordinators around them?

So don't consider Lea because he successfully did the thing that is required to build a winning football program? Would he not have access to the best OC's and DC's and elite football talent to recruit at Auburn? Maybe he got "lucky" with Pavia, but that kid wasn't even remotely close to a "Heisman QB" when they recruited him out of NM State. At Auburn he could recruit even more high-profile transfer QB's, or hell, there might be a "Pavia" on the roster already depending on what you think of Deuce Knight. Auburn obviously has access to far greater talent than Vanderbilt will ever compete for, so if your argument is that Lea is only good because they have talent, then it is a stupid one because there is nothing hypothetically standing in the way from amassing even greater talent at a program like Auburn. shite, what is even preventing Lea from bringing Beck and Kill with him if he were to take a new job? I'm sure that both of those guys would love pay raises as well.

And yes, I'm aware that Vanderbilt was losing games before last season. The season before Lea was hired they didn't even win a single game (went something like 0-9), and some of you may have forgotten that the program's claim to fame was the nonsense stunt their administration pulled with the female kicker being trotted out onto the field. Vanderbilt (the school) wasn't even remotely serious about winning football games, which means that Lea started from a complete negative. Winning 2-5 games is a big step up from 0 games at a bottom-feeder SEC program like Vanderbilt.

I have no idea if Lea would succeed (there is literally no guarantee that ANYONE will succeed), but shite reasoning like this is exactly how you talk yourself out of a potentially great coach.

What is austudent22 saying about the coaching search?

We just need a winner. Someone that only cares about doing what it takes to win. Freeze had a rebuild approach which worked but he didn’t translate it into wins so it was useless. We have playoff level talent on the roster.

True, but last year it would have had us in the playoff, and this year would still be our best season since 2019

All of this going back and forth picking apart coaches and throwing out their best accolades is giving me a headache. I feel less confident in ANY candidate this year than I have in the past. NIL has brought so much parity that its a crapshoot at best. If we can't get a Kiffin level hire, Sumerall seems like the best option. I sure hope he works out better than most of the hot upcoming coaches that are usually thrown around for top jobs.

Thanks for the info!

Less successful Billy Napier headed our way

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Given Auburn's history of hiring shitty head coaches, I am seriously worried that we are about to wind up with Harsin 2.0

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We need a winning culture. Sumrall may not be it, but we have to get someone who is winning at the top of their relative spots. Our loser mentality is killing us more than anything right now - we need someone who knows what it’s like to win. No more retreads