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Posted on 9/27/21 at 1:21 pm to
Posted by Skyler97
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Posted on 9/27/21 at 1:21 pm to
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We also don’t know what his ceiling good be, but we have a very good idea of Bo’s ceiling.


That’s my thing. We know what Bo is. He’s been through multiple OCs and Head coaches and still is average at best. Finley didn’t look much better to me, but he didn’t look worse either. At this point, I just don’t see how trying him could hurt. The absolute worst thing that could happen is Bo gets pissed and transfers.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 9/27/21 at 1:21 pm to
Hypothetically, you start Finley. What do you do if he struggles? Do you go back to the two year plus starter you just benched? What does that do for the team psyche?
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 9/27/21 at 1:21 pm to
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Of Finley’s four drives

1 was a punt
1 was a missed FG (Finley accounted for 11 yards)
1 was a fumble (Finley accounted for 18 yards)
And the touchdown drive (good drive by Finley)

To say he was a success on 3 of 4 drives is again dishonest.


Oh, so is the argument now that the drive only "counts" if he accounts for all of the yardage himself?

What is extremely dishonest is trying to undermine a drive where the QB completed passes for first downs on 3rd down TWICE because what, he only had 18 yards total?

Here is the actuality of that drive:

quote:

1st & 10 at AUB 38
(9:35 - 4th) TJ Finley pass incomplete

2nd & 10 at AUB 38
(9:28 - 4th) Tank Bigsby run for 6 yds to the Aub 44

3rd & 4 at AUB 44
(8:50 - 4th) TJ Finley pass complete to Ja'Varrius Johnson for 9 yds to the GeoSt 47 for a 1ST down


1st & 10 at GAST 47
(8:01 - 4th) Tank Bigsby run for 5 yds to the GeoSt 42

2nd & 5 at GAST 42
(7:50 - 4th) TJ Finley pass incomplete

3rd & 5 at GAST 42
(7:32 - 4th) TJ Finley pass complete to Kobe Hudson for 9 yds to the GeoSt 33 for a 1ST down


1st & 10 at GAST 33
(7:00 - 4th) Tank Bigsby run for 2 yds to the GeoSt 31

2nd & 8 at GAST 31
(6:43 - 4th) Tank Bigsby run for 7 yds to the GeoSt 24 Tank Bigsby fumbled, recovered by GeoSt Jordan Veneziale


The two most significant plays on that drive were 9-yard completions by Finley. And they both came on 3rd down.

On the drive that led to a missed FG, he completed 1 of 2 passes. And he also RAN for a 1st down on 3rd and 1. The majority of that drive was running the ball by Hunter, who ran 4 times. Finley however still gets credit for converting a 3rd down on our own 49 yard line. Without that they don't even get to attempt a FG.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
19251 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 1:22 pm to
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Finley had two drives in the third quarter

No he didn't.

He took over with 2:45 to play in the 3rd qtr and went on an 8 play drive that ended with Carlson's miss two plays I to the 4th qtr.

Here's the ESPN play-by-play. LINK
Posted by Skyler97
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 9/27/21 at 1:25 pm to
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Hypothetically, you start Finley. What do you do if he struggles? Do you go back to the two year plus starter you just benched? What does that do for the team psyche?


I mean Bo has struggled to be consistent for years. What does it do to team psyche to constantly put a guy out there that isn’t getting it done?
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28290 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 1:27 pm to
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I mean Bo has struggled to be consistent for years. What does it do to team psyche to constantly put a guy out there that isn’t getting it done?


BS, he has looked good this year except for this game. In the first three games, he has double digit drops by his WR's. He can't throw and catch it. He looked really bad this game. Finley didn't look much better. He missed as many wide open receivers as he hit.
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
28907 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 1:28 pm to
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Hypothetically, you start Finley. What do you do if he struggles? Do you go back to the two year plus starter you just benched? What does that do for the team psyche?


I agree. Finely earned it. If he blows up, put Nix back in.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28290 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 1:29 pm to
So that does nothing to the team psyche AND the QB's psyche?


ETA revolving QB's never turns out bad.
This post was edited on 9/27/21 at 1:31 pm
Posted by Weagle25
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Member since Oct 2011
46193 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 1:30 pm to
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Oh, so is the argument now that the drive only "counts" if he accounts for all of the yardage himself?


I think you forgot the argument.

I said dishonest to say Finley came in and won the game while Nix was losing it. The offense was not very productive with either of them in.

The reason for the turn around? Defense stopped getting gashed and we blocked a punt. Neither of which has to do with Nix or Finley.

Finley didn’t come in and do much of anything different than Bo. Completing two short passes that happen to be on third down doesn’t impress.

He had one good drive which I already gave him credit for.

All of this doesn’t even matter. As soon as he plays y’all will see. I don’t know why we act like this game is his first action in his career.
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 9/27/21 at 1:32 pm to
I mean if it’s an epic disaster and he’s clearly messed up in the head (Similar to Bo against Florida a couple years ago), then yes.

But if he’s not making mistakes and drives are simply stalling, then let him grow.

We know what Bo is at this point.
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
25042 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 1:36 pm to
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Finley didn't look much better. He missed as many wide open receivers as he hit.

the vantage point from the stands is much better than on the TV screen
Posted by auburnnyc94
Member since Nov 2017
7929 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 1:36 pm to
The notion that this should obviously be TJ’s start Saturday is just wrong. I’m fine with going that direction for the sake of momentum but it’s tricky. I’m interested to see what Harsin decides
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
25042 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 1:38 pm to
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We know what Bo is at this point.
Amazing what a few dropped passes and a porous OL can do to your perceived talent
This post was edited on 9/27/21 at 1:38 pm
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28290 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 1:38 pm to
IF you keep rotating QB's, you are messing with both of their heads. They are constantly looking over their shoulder. That is not a good thing for either. There is a saying...... "If you have two QB's, you have none".
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
25042 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 1:39 pm to
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The reason for the turn around? Defense stopped getting gashed and we blocked a punt.
So true. McClain is the best player on our team hands down
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
28907 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 1:40 pm to
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Amazing what a few dropped passes and a porous OL can do to your talent perception


Based off 3 years. Upper 50% completion percentage. I’d argue we could watch film from all his 3 years and they’d mostly look the same.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
36557 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 1:45 pm to
Bo is so far having a 6 TD, 0 turnover, 61% season.

He has really never been a turnover threat knock on wood.

That’s a pretty high floor.
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 9/27/21 at 1:46 pm to
I expect Bo Nix to start against LSU, FWIW.

I hope we have Dee Robertson back at WR, too.
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
3599 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 1:47 pm to
TJ Finley on 3rd and 4th down against Georgia Southern in 4 total possessions:

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3rd & 1 at AUB 49
(2:00 - 3rd) TJ Finley run for 2 yds to the GeoSt 49 for a 1ST down

3rd & 8 at GAST 23
(14:56 - 4th) TJ Finley pass incomplete

3rd & 11 at AUB 29
(11:30 - 4th) TJ Finley pass complete to Ze'Vian Capers for 6 yds to the Aub 35

3rd & 4 at AUB 44
(8:50 - 4th) TJ Finley pass complete to Ja'Varrius Johnson for 9 yds to the GeoSt 47 for a 1ST down

3rd & 5 at GAST 42
(7:32 - 4th) TJ Finley pass complete to Kobe Hudson for 9 yds to the GeoSt 33 for a 1ST down

3rd & 11 at AUB 19
(2:23 - 4th) TJ Finley pass complete to Kobe Hudson for 15 yds to the Aub 34 for a 1ST down

3rd & 9 at GAST 10
(0:53 - 4th) TJ Finley pass incomplete to Kobe Hudson

4th & 9 at GAST 10
(0:45 - 4th) TJ Finley pass complete to Shedrick Jackson for 10 yds for a TD, (TJ Finley pass to Kobe Hudson for Two-Point Conversion)



5 for 7 passing - 4 of which were converted for 1st downs (1 touchdown)
1 rushing attempt converted for a 1st down.

6 of 8 total opportunities were converted for 1st downs (75%).

Again, the notion that he was "just as bad as Bo Nix" is complete nonsense.

Edit: the 2-point conversion is also technically a one-down (ie: "4th down") play. If you include that, it jumps to 7 of 9 conversions (78%).
This post was edited on 9/27/21 at 1:50 pm
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42568 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 1:49 pm to
I have voiced my displeasure with Bo, but at this point I am comfortable with Harsin's management style and his demands for production. If he wants Bo, whatever. I am watching either way.
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