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Posted on 9/27/21 at 11:57 am to
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 9/27/21 at 11:57 am to
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We get it. You don't like Finely regardless of what happens. He ONLY orchestrated a 98 yard drive and gave us the go ahead score. I don't care if he doesn't the Moonwalk before throwing a TD strike. That dude is a baller, and you are in a serious minority of people that don't see it. o Nix?



I just think there is some middle ground between baller and Nix. If you mean he's a gamer who stepped up, I agree, although it was still GSU.

I'm hoping Finley's 98 yard drive was a somewhat rusty version of himself that he will improve upon but shows his mettle, which would bode well for his chances to take over the job. As opposed to his ceiling or his finished product, which was good in the moment but won't win many games against real opponents.

Across AU nation I see very few people who are convinced Finley is about to take the job and never look back, which is how I'm reading your enthusiasm. I think most people see him as guy who couldn't hang on to the LSU job and did a very good job stealing a win from a bad opponent (which Bo probably couldn't have done), but has limited upside from the evidence to date. Basically, he'd be a good backup if Bo came anywhere close to the expectations we had for him (even with those trending down).

But, FWIW, I hope you're right.

Posted by ChexMix
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Posted on 9/27/21 at 12:00 pm to
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Temporarily he is a better option.

last weekend, yes. long term, no.
Posted by ChexMix
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Posted on 9/27/21 at 12:03 pm to
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He ONLY orchestrated a 98 yard drive and gave us the go ahead score. I don't care if he doesn't the Moonwalk before throwing a TD strike. That dude is a baller, and you are in a serious minority of people that don't see it. o Nix?
i would love to see your take about Bo Nix after he led Auburn to victory against Oregon.

also, the 98 yard drive was aided by the refs on a completely bogus call. And Finley sailed a guarantee TD. Stop acting like finley looked all world.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
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Posted on 9/27/21 at 12:18 pm to
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would love to see your take about Bo Nix after he led Auburn to victory against Oregon.



That was 2 years ago and we crowned him the savior.

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the 98 yard drive was aided by the refs on a completely bogus call. And Finley sailed a guarantee TD. Stop acting like finley looked all world.


The blown call didn't end the game. It was still 2nd down going in.

But I agree that one drive does not define a QB. We have two average QBs
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 9/27/21 at 12:23 pm to
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also, the 98 yard drive was aided by the refs on a completely bogus call


There is no indication that they wouldn't have scored regardless of that call. It just seemed inevitable that we would win after what Finley was doing on that drive in terms of converting 3rd downs. Georgia State did literally nothing the entire 2nd half and seemed to think they could just delay their way to a win. From the blocked punt on we controlled the entire game. Seemingly ~90% of the time when a team does that, they end up losing the game. As the post above stated, that "call" came on 2nd down.

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And Finley sailed a guarantee TD.


Yeah, and then he followed it up with a strike under duress for the win. Bo Nix sailed two guaranteed TD's earlier in the game - and they were much worse misses than Finley's miss which actually hit the receiver in the fricking hands, so I'm not sure what the hell this point is supposed to mean. Nix sailed a ball over the head of a 6'4 receiver with no one around him. He overthrew Johnson (who was open by ~5 yards) so badly that he even dove for the ball and came nowhere near it.

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Stop acting like finley looked all world.


Literally nobody has claimed that Finley was "all world". It's not fricking hard to comprehend: one guy was in there for nearly 3 quarters and did frick-all. The other guy came in with the team LOSING and won the game. One guy made plays on 3rd down, the other guy didn't. They both played behind the same shitty OL and were pressured - one guy scrambled up into the pocket and was able to deliver the ball to open receivers, the other guy ran sideways like he always does resulting in incompletions that are essentially outright throwaways.

Not one person has claimed that Finley looked amazing. The claim is that Bo Nix looked bad, which he did, and was rightfully pulled after having most of the game to do ANYTHING on offense. The backup came in, wasn't perfect, and still made enough plays to win the fricking game.

Are you one of these morons who thinks that Bo nix needs 4 full years worth of starts to "get his confidence"? He's in his 3rd year of starting and can't deliver a consistent ball to open receivers. Most of you don't even realize that despite his absurd number of starts, he has barely any standout games - he is the definition of a game manager. At best you hope that he doesn't turn the ball over, which he thankfully doesn't (because he's generally not even accurate enough to throw interceptable balls LOL) but you just witnessed a game where the other team stacked the box and dared him to throw...and he couldn't even hit the gimme big plays to wide open receivers.
This post was edited on 9/27/21 at 12:25 pm
Posted by jangalang
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Posted on 9/27/21 at 12:38 pm to
Holy wall of unhinged

This post was edited on 9/27/21 at 12:39 pm
Posted by ChexMix
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Posted on 9/27/21 at 12:41 pm to
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But I agree that one drive does not define a QB. We have two average QBs
We hope. We still do not know about Finley.
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 9/27/21 at 12:43 pm to
To say Finley came in and won the game despite Nix losing us the game is pretty dishonest.

Bo accounted for 12 points.
Finley accounted for 7 points.

Granted Finley was in FG range one time (mostly due to a penalty) and was in Scoring range again another time until Tank scored.

Yes Finley came in down the stretch and made plays he needed to but let’s not act like the offense was anymore productive with Finley rather than Nix because it wasn’t.
This post was edited on 9/27/21 at 12:44 pm
Posted by ChexMix
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Posted on 9/27/21 at 12:48 pm to
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There is no indication that they wouldn't have scored regardless of that call.
Never said we wouldnt. I said the drive was aided by a bull shite call. Which happens to be true whether you like it or not.

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Yeah, and then he followed it up with a strike under duress for the win. Bo Nix sailed two guaranteed TD's earlier in the game - and they were much worse misses than Finley's miss which actually hit the receiver in the fricking hands
selective memory. Finley sailed several deep balls when he got into the game. Threw into traffic. Stared down his WRs.

You only remember the miracle passes under duress when he had to improvise.

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Not one person has claimed that Finley looked amazing.
Do what?

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Are you one of these morons who thinks that Bo nix needs 4 full years worth of starts to "get his confidence"?
i want the QB that gives us the best chances of winning to start.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 9/27/21 at 12:48 pm to
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To say Finley came in and won the game despite Nix losing us the game is pretty dishonest.

It's really not.
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Bo accounted for 12 points

In 3 quarters.
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Finley accounted for 7 points.

In 1 quarter with the missed FG and fumble you mentioned.
Posted by metafour
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Posted on 9/27/21 at 12:48 pm to
Every time I obliterate a post of non-sequiturs line by line, you can rest assured that someone who's feelings are hurt is going to come in and say: "wow look at that wall of text" without attempting to defend any position. Like clockwork .

It's like they post something nonsensical and then get mad when someone takes two seconds to pick what they wrote apart.

Posted by ChexMix
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Posted on 9/27/21 at 12:49 pm to
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Every time I obliterate a post of non-sequiturs line by line
you didnt obliterate shite. you posted drivel and bled all over the board
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
3599 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 12:57 pm to
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To say Finley came in and won the game despite Nix losing us the game is pretty dishonest.

Bo accounted for 12 points.
Finley accounted for 7 points.

Granted Finley was in FG range one time (mostly due to a penalty) and was in Scoring range again another time until Tank scored.

Yes Finley came in down the stretch and made plays he needed to but let’s not act like the offense was anymore productive with Finley rather than Nix because it wasn’t.


Auburn punted the ball away on 4 of the 8 total drives that Bo Nix was in at QB.

Auburn punted the ball away on 1 of 4 total drives that Finley was in at QB.

One of Bo Nix's FG drives came after a 72-yard kickoff return by Pritchett.

Right, the offense wasn't any more productive under Finley .

On the drive where Tank fumbled the ball away, Finley completed TWO 3rd downs with his arm that ended up extending the drive. You can go back and take a look at Bo Nix's drives: on those 4 punts, he had the pass attempt and failed to convert 3 times on 3rd down. The other lone failure was a 3rd and short run by Tank that went for a loss.

For those that don't understand football: the game is won by moving the chains and converting on key 3rd downs. A QB is judged by their ability to make plays on 3rd and 6, 3rd and 8, etc. Bo Nix did not make ANY of those plays.
This post was edited on 9/27/21 at 12:58 pm
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 9/27/21 at 1:02 pm to
Finley came in in the third quarter
Posted by Skyler97
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 9/27/21 at 1:05 pm to
If I’m not mistaken, Finley took his first snap with 2:45 left in the third so he pretty much only played a quarter
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 9/27/21 at 1:08 pm to
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Finley came in in the third quarter

I'm sorry.

1 quarter and 2 minutes.
Posted by Weagle25
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 9/27/21 at 1:08 pm to
Of Finley’s four drives

1 was a punt
1 was a missed FG (Finley accounted for 11 yards)
1 was a fumble (Finley accounted for 18 yards)
And the touchdown drive (good drive by Finley)

To say he was a success on 3 of 4 drives is again dishonest.
Posted by Weagle25
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 9/27/21 at 1:10 pm to
Nix had two drives in the third quarter.

Finley had two drives in the third quarter

I don’t care how many quarters they each played. Look at the drive summaries
This post was edited on 9/27/21 at 1:14 pm
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
36557 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 1:11 pm to
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Every time I obliterate a post of non-sequiturs line by line, you can rest assured that someone who's feelings are hurt is going to come in and say: "wow look at that wall of text" without attempting to defend any position. Like clockwork

Do I really have to defend my position against that long arse post though? It’s already said and out there. What you said was no more unique than other arguments already advanced. Just more angry.
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 9/27/21 at 1:18 pm to
I thought Finley had good vision. We also don’t know what his ceiling could be, but we have a very good idea of Bo’s ceiling.

I don’t know how you bench Finely and not create a locker room issue.
This post was edited on 9/27/21 at 1:35 pm
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