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Posted on 2/4/20 at 9:39 pm to Ross
quote:Boats loads of Tenacious'D. . . kinda like the football team.
This team might be the worst shooting team I’ve ever seen that’s actually really good.
Kind of a bizarre squad and I’m sure we register as something of a statistical anomaly in some ways. Grit and determination and effort gets you a long ways.
Posted on 2/4/20 at 10:36 pm to awestruck
We miss 50% of dunks, foul shots, and lay ups, and yet we are a very good basketball team.
I guess effort, defense and rebounding still wins a ton of games.
I guess effort, defense and rebounding still wins a ton of games.
Posted on 2/5/20 at 4:38 am to bird35
+17 in rebounding last night.
That’s dominating.
If turnovers get cleaned up and shooting improves a little,.......
That’s dominating.
If turnovers get cleaned up and shooting improves a little,.......
Posted on 2/5/20 at 5:18 am to makersmark1
Posted on 2/5/20 at 6:19 am to MrAUTigers
quote:. . . at least he's got us over LSU ?
That kenpom dude is really starting to piss me off.
Posted on 2/5/20 at 6:45 am to MrAUTigers
It’s a formula
Posted on 2/5/20 at 7:41 am to MrAUTigers
The SEC's poor OOC performance is hammering everyone in the conference, meanwhile, we're ranked behind 10 loss Big 10 teams. That think is obviously flawed. We would be 10th in the Big 10 according to that. 
This post was edited on 2/5/20 at 7:43 am
Posted on 2/5/20 at 7:42 am to MrAUTigers
Kenpom is based primarily on offensive and defensive efficiency. It's usually a good predictor. However, it completely ignores wins and losses, so when you have a team that wins in a statistically unusual and inefficient way, kenpom will rank that team lower than the record indicates is reasonable.
Auburn is unique in that it is winning game with volume free throw attempts and tremendous offensive rebounding. It isn't particular good in any other offensive or defensive metric.
Auburn is unique in that it is winning game with volume free throw attempts and tremendous offensive rebounding. It isn't particular good in any other offensive or defensive metric.
Posted on 2/5/20 at 8:18 am to MrAUTigers
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That kenpom dude is really starting to piss me off.
The easy way to view Kenpom is to imagine winning being against the spread not game outcome
So if Auburn is favored by 10, winning by less than 10 is underperforming
So for example, beating Vandy by only 4 at home dropped us from #11 to 17 as we were favored by double digits
Posted on 2/5/20 at 8:23 am to PearlJam
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Kenpom is based primarily on offensive and defensive efficiency. It's usually a good predictor. However, it completely ignores wins and losses, so when you have a team that wins in a statistically unusual and inefficient way, kenpom will rank that team lower than the record indicates is reasonable.
Auburn is unique in that it is winning game with volume free throw attempts and tremendous offensive rebounding. It isn't particular good in any other offensive or defensive metric.
Very much this.
It's not that Kenpom isn't a good metric. It is. It just doesn't really apply well to this Auburn team.
Posted on 2/5/20 at 8:32 am to Bigbens42
Kenpom isn’t a ranking/resume tool... it’s intended to be used in matchups.
As kenpom sees it, we couldn’t easily lost any of our last three games (trailed in the 2nd half in all three... two by double digits).
As kenpom sees it, we couldn’t easily lost any of our last three games (trailed in the 2nd half in all three... two by double digits).
Posted on 2/5/20 at 11:44 am to PearlJam
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Auburn is unique in that it is winning games with volume free throw attempts and tremendous offensive rebounding.
Posted on 2/5/20 at 12:01 pm to Bigbens42
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It's not that Kenpom isn't a good metric. It is. It just doesn't really apply well to this Auburn team.
No, it's a really shitty metric for any Bruce Pearl coached team. Needs to be brought up to these hack wannabe statistician writers. It's been proven throughout his whole career. When any writer slights a Pearl coached team because of some stupid website's efficiency stats, they're basically trying to tell us that his defense sucks. You can go back and look at every year.
Posted on 2/5/20 at 12:02 pm to jsmoove
KenPom had us in the top 25 last year basically the entire season, even when we fell way out of the AP Poll.
Posted on 2/5/20 at 12:13 pm to auburnnyc94
Not talking about overall, but overall his teams have been well below where they should have been. Defensive efficiency is not a good Bruce Pearl metric, and if you don't make our defense a factor, it doesn't give a good picture at all.
Posted on 2/5/20 at 1:22 pm to jsmoove
quote:What?
Not talking about overall, but overall
Posted on 2/5/20 at 2:30 pm to jsmoove
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No, it's a really shitty metric for any Bruce Pearl coached team.
Not really. Plenty of examples of Pearl teams underperforming W/L vs KenPom ranking
2019: AU 16-8 ranked #17
2018: AU 25-7 ranekd #16 after losing SECT
2009 TN 21-13 ranked #32
2006 TN 22-8 ranked #17
2005 Milwaukee 26-6 #36
2004 Milwaukee 20-11 #62
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KenPom had us in the top 25 last year
Lowest KenPom ranking was 18 when 13-6
This post was edited on 2/5/20 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 2/5/20 at 3:04 pm to GenesChin
we moved up one in the NET.
Posted on 2/5/20 at 6:54 pm to MrAUTigers
Fun fact
In the past three seasons, we have only 3 home losses by a combined 8 pts
In Bruce's tenure I think it is only 18 L at home vs some 74 total L
In the past three seasons, we have only 3 home losses by a combined 8 pts
In Bruce's tenure I think it is only 18 L at home vs some 74 total L
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